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Re: Reloading

Post by Another Dang 9 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:52 pm

There is a 10 min. video on YouTube of nothing but slow motion bullet strikes. Its called 1Mil FPS. It will put all bullet questions to rest.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:05 pm

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There is a 10 min. video on YouTube of nothing but slow motion bullet strikes. Its called 1Mil FPS. It will put all bullet questions to rest.
I watched the first couple minutes until I realized it doesn't explain anything. Some bullets impacting something, not to quote Omar.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Another Dang 9 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:57 pm

Charlie, a picture is worth a thousand words. You only watched 20% hard to make a,judgement from 20% of anything. And isn't that what we do. Impact something with some other thing in hopes of making more impacts on something?
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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:31 pm

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Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:57 pm
Charlie, a picture is worth a thousand words. You only watched 20% hard to make a,judgement from 20% of anything. And isn't that what we do. Impact something with some other thing in hopes of making more impacts on something?
I'm an analytical person's analytical. I scrolled forward to see if there were any descriptions. They were just bullets impacting metal. I'm 994 words short. I have no other words to describe what I saw. Nothing was put to rest with what I saw in that video. That video just gave me more questions.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:33 pm

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Re: Reloading

Post by Another Dang 9 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:22 pm

I'm an analytical person's analytical.

Being from Massachusetts I wouldn't touch that one with a 10 foot pole.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:21 am

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I'm an analytical person's analytical.

Being from Massachusetts I wouldn't touch that one with a 10 foot pole.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:11 pm

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Charlie if you are damaging AR 500 Steel then its not AR 500 Steel.
Not all AR Steel (350-500) is the same but AR 500 is typically "through treated". Some is only "surface treated" usually the AR 350-450 materials.
The A-36 material Al spoke of is typically only surface treated and is generally fine for all 1/2 scale targets and I would consider it the minimal for general range use.
The price of the steel jumps dramatically depending on what you buy. Making targets is very expensive unless you are doing it on a large scale production and most people don't understand the difference between all the various types of metal out there or even between similar metals.

Al. There use to be a rule about targets but since they changed the thickness of the targets I haven't seen any reference to target material. It was listed in the older rule books as well as the range requirement handbook the NRA had but no longer prints. Ive asked several people at NRA HQ about it but none of the new people even know what I'm talking about.
Those craters are the kind of "damage" to AR500 steel I was talking about. Is that not considered damage? Just wondering.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Another Dang 9 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:49 am

Charlie. Take a look at any clubs chickens. They all have impact marks. Edge hits are the most evident. This is What damage looks like.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Another Dang 9 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:56 am

If you watch the video again you will see bullets impact steel and come apart on impact. That's AR steel. Then you see bullets hit and punch right through. Thats mild steel.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:59 am

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Charlie. Take a look at any clubs chickens. They all have impact marks. Edge hits are the most evident. This is What damage looks like.
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Re: Reloading

Post by Another Dang 9 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:09 am

Its still up to the match directors discretion if you are damaging their targets. AR Steel(Hardox) will not creator. Mild steel and AR (not Hardox) will creator.
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Re: Reloading

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Its still up to the match directors discretion if you are damaging their targets. AR Steel(Hardox) will not creator. Mild steel and AR (not Hardox) will creator.
Mild steel is more than adequate for small bore and pistol cartridge 1/2 scale targets. It will work for CLA turkey and rams even but damage will happen. That's why AR 500 steel is 3X the cost of what A36 mild steel is.
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Re: Reloading

Post by CamP » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:54 pm

22 Mag put some nasty dents in my mild steel chickens and pigs. I've since replaced them with 1/4" AR500 steel which works great.

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Re: Reloading

Post by Sporty » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:31 am

CamP wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:54 pm
22 Mag put some nasty dents in my mild steel chickens and pigs. I've since replaced them with 1/4" AR500 steel which works great.
CCI Maxi-Mag made the deepest dents with my .22 Magnum ammo testing.
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