.357 or 30-30 or what caliber for Rifle silhouette

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.357 or 30-30 or what caliber for Rifle silhouette

Post by shootmore » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:54 am

Wanted; another LA for Rifle Silhouette so I don't have to share one with the kid. That 12 year old just won A class aggregate at Raton Nationals with our Winchester 94 30-30!

Preference runs to a heavy 8+ pounds, 24" long barrel or more, pistol grip rifle, .357 or 30-30 caliber for Rifle silhouette? Since we have dies, bullets etc for .357 and 30-30 those calibers are preferred but if there is a large margin of group improvement using another caliber we are open to that.
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Will a 357 take down them Rifle silhouette animals? Which is more accurate .357 or 30-30?
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Post by ppkny » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:18 am

Wasted too much time when I started Lever Action trying to get a 375 to work on 200 meter rams. Get a Win 30-30 for about $600 and save yourself the aggravation.
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Post by Doodaddy » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:52 am

ppkny wrote:
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Wasted too much time when I started Lever Action trying to get a 375 to work on 200 meter rams. Get a Win 30-30 for about $600 and save yourself the aggravation.
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Post by frankmako » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:52 am

You can use the 357 mag,,,,but it will ring rams and sometimes turkeys. So just hit 20 out of 20 on the chickens/pigs and don't worry about the ringers. Or just get a 30-30 and be done with it.

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Post by jnyork » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:11 am

If you can find one of the older Marlin 336's with the 24" barrel, you will have the hot setup.

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Post by shootmore » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:16 am

What year(s)?

How is the new Marlin MODEL 336XLR 30-30 compare to the older ones? I watched Michael G shoot a 33/40 using someone else's rifle at Raton last week.

30-30 Win.
5-shot tubular magazine (spire point bullets)
Lever action; side ejection; stainless steel receiver, fluted bolt, barrel, lever, trigger guard plate, magazine tube and loading gate; hammer block safety
Black/grey laminated hardwood pistol-grip stock with fluted comb; cut checkering; deluxe recoil pad; nickel-plated swivel studs
24" stainless steel barrel (6 grooves)
1:12" twist rate
Adjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear sight, ramp front sight with brass bead and Wide-Scan hood.
42 1⁄2" long
13 1⁄2" length of pull
7 1⁄2 lbs. approximate weight

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Post by Sporty » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:54 am

My new .30-30 336 XLR SS shoots well. The receiver cover edges are sharp. With little effort, I stripped the heads of a forearm tip tennon screw and the side gate screw. Remington replaced them free of charge. My manual doesn't correctly state how to remove the magazine tube.

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Post by cedestech » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:26 am

I saw A LOT of XLR's at the nationals... they shoot well. I prefer a little more weight with the 1894 centennials but you can't go wrong with either. 30-30 of course. Yes you can shoot other things but you will have limitations.... If you only shoot a couple CLA matches a year you can buy white box 150gr ammo and shoot 2MOA all day and sell your brass. ;)
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Post by shootmore » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:30 am

Is that Emmett D from 2019 Raton team "suspiciously delicious" :D ?

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Post by cedestech » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:10 pm

shootmore wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:30 am
Is that Emmett D from 2019 Raton team "suspiciously delicious" :D ?
I'm like a dog... I tend to chew on or pee on everything... not my team though I did name it... :)
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Post by BrentD » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:10 pm

I prefer heavier, bullets than the .30-30. Less recoil when slowed down. .38-55 can't be beat, if you ask me. .30-30s are too much recoil.

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Post by Another Dang 9 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:32 pm

The 38-55 is probably the most ideal round. But finding one under $1500 is impossible.
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Post by CamP » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:38 pm

I occasionally see new in box, 26" Canadian Win 94's selling for $600-700. Pretty good bang for the buck.

I just picked up a new 26" 94 Classic, for a little more, that shoots moa with white box.

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Post by BrentD » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:44 pm

Another Dang 9 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:32 pm
The 38-55 is probably the most ideal round. But finding one under $1500 is impossible.
You might be able to make one for less. Maybe. Reboring a .30-30 for $250.

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Post by curmudgeon » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:37 pm

Another Dang 9 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:32 pm
The 38-55 is probably the most ideal round. But finding one under $1500 is impossible.
Would light loads in a .35 Rem behave similarly?

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