25-20 Loads

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by snaketail2 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:21 am

I have a similar Marlin 1894/.357, with a set of expensive Lee Shaver sights. And, I wonder the same thing - why don't spend my time shooting it rather than chasing a load for an obsolete cartridge that uses hard to find components?
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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by edgehit » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:36 pm

Stop the reloading madness and get a 22 wmr. Ammo is plentiful now. No reloading. Minimal recoil. Hornady 45 Critical Defense takes rams. Most ammo groups less than 2”. Some of it 3/4”. And it’s very flat shooting.

Save the 25, 32-20 and 357’s for ranges with heavy set rams
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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by Jason » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:20 pm

The Hornady 45 critical defense loads shot groups >6" at 100 meters from both 22WMR lever action rifles that I tried them in. They shot considerably better after I enhanced them which was basically reloading. Factory 22WMR ammo of all types fails to knock over our regulation pistol cartridge rams about 40% of the time. Also, I can reload 357 Mag ammo significantly cheaper than I can buy 22WMR ammo and can tailor the load to get great groups and 100% knock down.

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by 1894User » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:45 pm

As much as I like the 357 I will stick with the 25-20. Have already done the hard part and I love that only turkey and rams need any sight adjustment at all. Sent a e-mail to Speer asking directly if they were dropping the 75gr bullet. Have not had a reply. Good news is I still have 8 unopended boxes. 9 of the 60gr Hornady. There are just too many of the rifles out there for someone to not make jacketed bullets for them. Pointed out to Speer that it took less than a week for all major distributors nation wide to sell out.

Back to the load bench. Temps are getting back into the mid 40s. I can shoot at those temps.

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by snaketail2 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:05 am

Rather than call Speer I suggest we all use this form - http://ideas.speer-ammo.com/ - use the "Feedback button -
to express our wishes.
If enough people want the 75ge Speer FN back they may see the light.

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by 1894User » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:23 pm

Sadly the reply from Speer is that they are no longer producing the 75gr bullet for 25-20. See message traffic below.

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James,

At the current time we don't offer this or have plans to make this product. You can submit a request for this at this link. http://www.innovation.vistaoutdoor.com/


Cody B./Technical Service Rep.
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Lewiston, ID 83501
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Message: You are no longer listing a bullet for 25-20. Has the 75gr. Hotcore bullet been dropped? This was the most accurate bullet made for this round and its loss would be terrible. Last time it was available it sold out in under a week. I know as I purchased 1,000. Tried to go back the next week for another 1,000 and they were all gone. Natchez, Mid-South, Graf and Sons, Midway USA none available. There are a fair number who use this bullet in PCLA Silhouette and it would be hard to replace. Remington is out of the bullet business and Hornady only makes its 60gr bullet every 18 months or so. (It also sells out quickly.) Please do not drop this bullet.

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by Another Dang 9 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:49 am

They dropped the 100gr. 312 dia. for the 32-20 a few years ago too never to return. They were the best.
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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by Jason » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:59 am

Hornady still makes the 60, 85 and 100gr XTPs in .312" so it's not as bad for the 32-20. I even use those 100gr .312" XTPs to make plinker loads so my kids can shoot the Arisaka in 7.7 Jap that my wife's grandfather brought home from WWII. They shoot very well.

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by L. Rivard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:27 pm

Sorry to be commenting at this late date, but hopefully better late than never. One of our Master Class PC shooters has been using a 25-20 with a case full of Pyrodex. He claims the accuracy is great, and he has been winning a lot of matches. Something else to try.

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by snaketail2 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:18 am

I now have some 25-20 brass made from Starline 32-20. Should I fire-form them before using them in a match - or does it matter?
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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by BrentD » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:28 am

Personally, I'd fireform them at the match. the difference will be small at most. In no way would I let fire forming prevent me from participating in a match. Go, shoot, have fun, and if you don't shoot real well, blame me and your unformed brass. You have a built in excuse, so go!

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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by edgehit » Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:10 pm

Load’em and shoot’em.
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Re: 25-20 Loads

Post by 1894User » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:28 pm

I fire formed mine before I started load development. Looking back not sure that was really required.

Note that Midsouth shooting supplies currently has Hornady 60gr FPs. Get them while you can.

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