32-20 vs .357 vs. .22wmr for silhouette competition?

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PAndy wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:28 am KDanz, thanks for the info. Interesting how things vary with guns, conditions, chronographs, etc. I get well over 1100 fps with 4.5 gr of Titegroup (or Bullseye) and a 125 coated bullet in my 20" .357 rifle. 5.0 gr of Unique makes 1200+ fps. Jacketed 125s quite a bit slower.

There seem to be a number of us shooting slow burning powders in the 32-20 and 25-20. Not very 'efficient' in the .32 but accurate for some reason. The unburned kernels fertilize the grass I guess.
WTH is up with that? My wifes 25-20 with 60gr Hornady is the most accurate with 322... I HATE IT.... leaves tons of unburned kernels all in the action...

After this current loading I going to play with pistol powders.... the amount of yellow kernels gumming up the action is ridiculous.

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Solo 1000. Smells good and tastes great. Burns clean and cool with a nice gentle recoil pulse in both rifle and pistol. Load it the same as Titegroup with better results.
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shootmore wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:50 am Thanks Danz.

We will try the .357 loads. And if we get a 32-20 we will try those too.

Just spent time with a Master gunsmith in Barstow CA last week and learned to work the Lever Action triggers. What a difference!
I assume you are talking about Jim Henry of Barstow?

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Yep James Henry. Great guy and he is the master.

I just ordered all the gear to do trigger jobs as I have three more lever actions to work on. Compliments my machine shop where my son and I build match rifles, parts and such.
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Shootmore, do I I know you in person?
What city/state are you from?
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Got it.
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tested my two .22wmr Henry's (24" octagon) this week -one shot 0.600"avg. at 50 yards with Hornady 30gr. (two 5 shot groups in led sled)
and 1.200" avg. at 100 yards with 45gr, Hornady.
Hornady is the only ammo I have and am glad I bought a few thousand rounds last year.
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I have yet to test some of the suggested loads in my .357 Win 94 24" Octagon straight stock.
Very happy to have located and purchased a new Winchester 1873 Sporter Pistol Grip, 24" Octagon in .357. Its due in next week. Then we will load for both and test both and see how they do.
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If only Henry would make a semi pistol gripped version
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If you want a 22 mag, you're pretty much limited to a Henry or a shorter barreled Winchester for the most part, is that right?
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Here are the 22 wmr’s that I’m aware of:
Uberti 1866- probably the best for off-hand due to good barrel weight and accuracy. This is what I’d buy if I was to hang my hat on wmr. Limited numbers are imported
Henry - current production and shoot fine I’m told
Win 9422 carbine, Legacy, and Classic. I have a Legacy, but it’s light. Add weight by placing a 7mm tungsten rod in the mag and a chunk in the butt.
Marlin 1894 - rare and pricey

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Don't forget Marlin 57M, one piece stock, short throw lever and feels like a full size rifle.

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So... Can't address the 9422 but do know they are light.

I have a 1866 Uberti, had a 54M and wife shoots a Henry 24".

The 66 holds like a rock and is surprisingly accurate.

The Henry is very accurate, a little light, has a fantastic warranty and price point.

The 54M isn't for the faint of heart mechanically, if it breaks, you'd better be handy or have a friendly gunsmith.
the 54M also has a very high comb, it's designed for scopes. You'll need tall sights or have thin cheek bones.
They are VERY accurate though.
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Thanks y'all. I've seen the marlin levermatics on GB here and there. Henry seems like a pretty 'easy' option. I'll keep my eyes open.
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cedestech wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:31 pm
"WTH is up with that? My wifes 25-20 with 60gr Hornady is the most accurate with 322... I HATE IT.... leaves tons of unburned kernels all in the action...

After this current loading I going to play with pistol powders.... the amount of yellow kernels gumming up the action is ridiculous. "


You might consider Vihtavuori powders in the same range, VV110 to VV130 don't seem to leave the unburnt kernels as much as other powders.

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