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NRA casification cards

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:17 pm
by Jerry G
WTF is going on with the NRA? I got my SB classifications a couple months ago and now I get a new one for my hunter rifle but they reclassified me down. Do they have clue what is going on?

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:20 pm
by atomicbrh
Jerry, this is only a guess.
NRA has no mechanism in place to know that you already had a classification in that discipline.
You shot a match where the scores were reported correctly and they sent you a classification card based on those scores like you had never shot before.
Scores which were in a lower classification that the class you are really in.
Julie and I just ignore those incorrect cards when they come in.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:30 pm
by DavidABQ
Jerry, my original hunter rifle card was incorrect and it took a few emails to include one from Lijaboy to get it corrected.

My question is, “did they reclassify you down on the NRA competition portal?”

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:02 pm
by Sporty
I wouldn't ignore it. I suggest contacting the NRA in case your real classification got replaced in their "database".

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:50 pm
by atomicbrh
When the boy cries wolf so many times, he is ignored. Same with cards.
The folks running matches find out which classifications you are in when you fill out the entry forms.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:24 am
by Jerry G
DavidABQ » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:30 pm
Jerry, my original hunter rifle card was incorrect and it took a few emails to include one from Lijaboy to get it corrected.

My question is, “did they reclassify you down on the NRA competition portal?”

It use to take an act of congress to lower your classification.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:19 am
by jbolt
I still have three that were down classified from the get go. Made three attempts to get them corrected. I no longer care. I don't shoot national matches so what difference does it make. At local matches I just signup in my correct class.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:08 am
by hermit5
I asked NRA’s Competitions if they received my scores for June matches as they are not on the new Portal system.
Reply was I am currently at Nationals Atterbury and won’t get to recording June scores till September 3.
This is really working good.At least it’s free this year.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:30 am
by Jerry G
atomicbrh » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:50 pm
When the boy cries wolf so many times, he is ignored. Same with cards.
The folks running matches find out which classifications you are in when you fill out the entry forms.

Most ranges in the western US know me and what my classification is. Besides I have not been to a match that has ask for my card.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:27 am
by Another Dang 9
Computers and technology are making life better. I'm still waiting to see when that happens...

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:18 am
by atomicbrh
Computer technology revolutionized medical imaging and patient record keeping in ways that are too complex to explain here. Success with computers depends on the skill level of the software designer and the skill level of the person using that software. Garbage in and you get garbage out. Genius in and you get genius out. Other sports sanctioning bodies had better systems in the 1990's.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:53 am
by Snake
So it appears that all the bull about sending in your old scores to develop a data base just went pffft? Plus there's supposed to be an real time reporting portal whereby the match director gets a double secret access code......but they ain't got that far. Can't they find a 13 year old to help them out? :D

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:51 pm
by atomicbrh
Jerry G, I want to make sure you know that the "boy who cried wolf" is not the shooters with messed up classifications. The complaints we shooters have are legitimate complaints not just whining.

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:32 am
by ShootingStar
OK - I know "everyone", including me have had problems with the Silhouette Classification Cards from the NRA, but did you all notice a recent update and send-out of new cards? I just got my new Sporter Air Rifle Classificatoin Card (2 weeks ago) - which I shot on Sept 14.
I emailed and called/talked to Shelly Kramer - Tournament Operations Director - who is the person who inputs the scores/classifications into the Database. She was very friendly, apologetic and recognized she was behind. She pulled up data from my previous Matches on the phone (both Smallbore & Air Rifle) - including telling me some of my reports were missing! Which, when I looked at my email records, were NOT SUBMITTED!!!
I quickly sent them to her, she confirmed receipt and input that information that day!!!
It was later that week when she sent out the updated and new Cards.

Yes, they are behind, and short staffed and far from what we as competitors would like to see, but the individual workers are trying - under the conditions they find themselves in!
I'm certainly not erasing all their sins, just trying to help paint the picture of the world from their point of view - since they are not here to hear the complaints nor to attempt explanations or give status.

If you have some specific score/Classification/Card issue, email her or call her (or both). She can straighten it out - or at least she did for me - pretty quickly.
Her email is: Tournrpts <at> nrahq.org (hopefully that's where everyone sends their email Tournament Reports)
Her phone number is: 7 oh 3.267.14 fifty-nine

Good Luck,
Greg Chandler - aka ShootingStar

Re: NRA casification cards

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:43 am
by cedestech
ShootingStar wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:32 am OK - I know "everyone", including me have had problems with the Silhouette Classification Cards from the NRA, but did you all notice a recent update and send-out of new cards? I just got my new Sporter Air Rifle Classificatoin Card (2 weeks ago) - which I shot on Sept 14.
I emailed and called/talked to Shelly Kramer - Tournament Operations Director - who is the person who inputs the scores/classifications into the Database. She was very friendly, apologetic and recognized she was behind. She pulled up data from my previous Matches on the phone (both Smallbore & Air Rifle) - including telling me some of my reports were missing! Which, when I looked at my email records, were NOT SUBMITTED!!!
I quickly sent them to her, she confirmed receipt and input that information that day!!!
It was later that week when she sent out the updated and new Cards.

Yes, they are behind, and short staffed and far from what we as competitors would like to see, but the individual workers are trying - under the conditions they find themselves in!
I'm certainly not erasing all their sins, just trying to help paint the picture of the world from their point of view - since they are not here to hear the complaints nor to attempt explanations or give status.

If you have some specific score/Classification/Card issue, email her or call her (or both). She can straighten it out - or at least she did for me - pretty quickly.
Her email is: Tournrpts <at> nrahq.org (hopefully that's where everyone sends their email Tournament Reports)
Her phone number is: 7 oh 3.267.14 fifty-nine

Good Luck,
Greg Chandler - aka ShootingStar
Thanks! That was incredibly constructive. :)