Your Remington 700
- timfinle
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I like the pharr like stock on 260 action with 7.08 and 308 as options. Put an excellent trigger, adjustable to 2 lbs in both 1 and 2 stages. the two stag should have both 1st and 2nd stag adjustments. Should have a quality contoured barrel. I like the 1000 mark for an excellent out of the box competitive rifle.
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My choice would be as has been described previously, everything you need and nothing you don't. The rifle should be good for the task but able to be upgraded to be great. Stainless action and stainless unfluted 24" heavy, tapered barrel. Any of the stocks mentioned here would be good, but with the quantity that Remington could buy, one of the Pharr designs from Robertsons wouldn't add a huge amount to the cost. It would probably be better to add an aluminum bedding blocking to aid in accuracy, as having the rifles actually bedded would be cost prohibitive. The new X-Mark trigger would be fine and could be upgraded later. Caliber choice should be kept simple, and include only .260 Rem and 7-08. This would be fine for most shooters that shoot a factory rifle and would have factory ammo available to get started. They could always rebarrel with 6.5x47 Lapua later, per the earlier "upgradable" requirement. As has also been mentioned, no sling studs to add a little extra cost, weight, and annoyance at having holes in the gun when they are inevitably removed. With these materials and very small additions to tooling/manufacturing costs from what Remington already offers, the MSRP should be $799 to $849, with the actual street price being around $750 assuming Remington's current tolerances, etc. I'd prefer to pay an extra $100 to have those tolerances cut a little closer for better accuracy potential.
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- BlauBear
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Definitely agree with that! This is shaping up as a really possible project for Remington! Purpose built, simple design, limited choices, and adequate out of the box performance with a world of aftermarket potential for the gunsmiths!Jason wrote:I'd prefer to pay an extra $100 to have those tolerances cut a little closer for better accuracy potential.
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I want one.
I want one already. Kind of like the 1712 of the HP world, except without the absolute top-of-the line reputation. That's OK, the Rem 700 has a solid reputation, just not a "best of the best" tradition like an Anschutz 1712 has in the smallbore world.
It seems that there is a hole in the high powered rifle market with respect to silhouette-specific factory built rifles. I hope that Remington siezes this opportunity.
SteveM.
It seems that there is a hole in the high powered rifle market with respect to silhouette-specific factory built rifles. I hope that Remington siezes this opportunity.
SteveM.
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Re: I want one.
From the response on this thread a lot of people agree. I looked at Remington's SPS Tactical as a silhouette candidate, but the short bull barrel was a show stopper. Once you have to start swapping parts to make class at shoot the distance, a nice new one becomes cost prohibitive. You might as well buy a clunker and toss everything but the receiver - or just build full custom.Jetmugg wrote:It seems that there is a hole in the high powered rifle market with respect to silhouette-specific factory built rifles. I hope that Remington siezes this opportunity.
SteveM.
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I say skip the mag setup. ADL's are lighter and you only have to press a round into the feed lips to be "loading from the magazine" for the Hunter rules.
Tell them to make a 5R with a hair thinner contour barrel, put it out in 260, 7-08 and 308 in a Robertson Pharr or Nesika stock and there you have it.
Tell them to make a 5R with a hair thinner contour barrel, put it out in 260, 7-08 and 308 in a Robertson Pharr or Nesika stock and there you have it.
Usually shooting scores right in class, too bad its the class below my classification!
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OK.....I just happen to have an example of the gun I mentioned above, my vision of what Remington should build as an out of the box silhouette competition rifle.
I put another Douglas premium barrel on the stainless rifle that Innocent Mary shot when visiting us a couple of weeks ago. That was my intention when I first bought it last July. She actually fired the last rounds from it before I removed the factory barrel. I gave the factory barrel to a friend to replace his nephews shot out .243.
Last Sat. I went to my shop to install the new one. It's a 26" #6 magnum sporter contour, in 7-08.........like you probably already figured out. It took me 2 hours to get it properly fitted and put a nice low lustre finish on the outside.
Took today off work and headed to CRC to do a break in and get some rough zeroes. Was too windy to do any serious group testing, but the group in the picture shows great promise with my favorite MK and Varget loads.
The weight of the gun as shown came in at 9.2 lbs. It "hangs" real nice with the extra up front weight. I got in front of the shed out of the wind and fired a bunch of off hand shots at the chicken gong. 10 for 10 on the gong.
If Rem. went with the same contour in a 24" barrel I'm sure the gun would easily make hunter class weight fully scoped. I plan on leaving it as is and using it for Std. class matches only. I adjusted the X-mark trigger to 1.5 lbs.
So.....? are we on the right track? Hey Chickenchoker.....Get your rep friend talking to the sales and marketing gurus at "Big Green". We are ready to lay down some cash!!
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I put another Douglas premium barrel on the stainless rifle that Innocent Mary shot when visiting us a couple of weeks ago. That was my intention when I first bought it last July. She actually fired the last rounds from it before I removed the factory barrel. I gave the factory barrel to a friend to replace his nephews shot out .243.
Last Sat. I went to my shop to install the new one. It's a 26" #6 magnum sporter contour, in 7-08.........like you probably already figured out. It took me 2 hours to get it properly fitted and put a nice low lustre finish on the outside.
Took today off work and headed to CRC to do a break in and get some rough zeroes. Was too windy to do any serious group testing, but the group in the picture shows great promise with my favorite MK and Varget loads.
The weight of the gun as shown came in at 9.2 lbs. It "hangs" real nice with the extra up front weight. I got in front of the shed out of the wind and fired a bunch of off hand shots at the chicken gong. 10 for 10 on the gong.
If Rem. went with the same contour in a 24" barrel I'm sure the gun would easily make hunter class weight fully scoped. I plan on leaving it as is and using it for Std. class matches only. I adjusted the X-mark trigger to 1.5 lbs.
So.....? are we on the right track? Hey Chickenchoker.....Get your rep friend talking to the sales and marketing gurus at "Big Green". We are ready to lay down some cash!!
http://s190.photobucket.com/albums/z94/ ... C04794.jpg
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Bob, that's probably the rifle we've been talking about! You say the action hasn't been accurized?
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One more feature I would like to see is the ability to insert spacers in the butt pad to adjust LOP.
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Negative BB......no mods at all. The back of the lug surfaces showed even burnish marks indicating very good engagement. Simply unscrewed the factory barrel, cleaned the reciever threads, lightly stoned the reciever face to remove any light burrs or raised metal (there were none).
Took all the important measurements, trued up the barrel in the lathe, cut the appropriate amount of metal off the recoil lug shoulder. Applied a light coat of stainless anti-seize to the barrel threads. Aligned the recoil lug, then wrenched the assembly tight with the barrel and action wrenches I made a couple of years ago. Copied them from the pictures in the Brownells catalog. Saved a bunch of $$$. Then polished the barrel while chucked up on the brass shim protected action. Without touching the original scope settings, my very first shot was three inches high and two inches right @ 200m. It was a quality install if I do say so myself.
Took all the important measurements, trued up the barrel in the lathe, cut the appropriate amount of metal off the recoil lug shoulder. Applied a light coat of stainless anti-seize to the barrel threads. Aligned the recoil lug, then wrenched the assembly tight with the barrel and action wrenches I made a couple of years ago. Copied them from the pictures in the Brownells catalog. Saved a bunch of $$$. Then polished the barrel while chucked up on the brass shim protected action. Without touching the original scope settings, my very first shot was three inches high and two inches right @ 200m. It was a quality install if I do say so myself.
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A cleanup then. It's a good looking, practical rifle that makes some nice groups. Any heating problems? Those stocks don't leave much space for cool air to reach the barrel.
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No heating issues. Never got it hot during the break in. About a 1/32 space around the barrel. Had to enlarge the channel to fit the fatter barrel.
That rifle is a long way from it's former SPS origin. I dont have a big chunk of money into it ,either. $575.00 for the SPS, I got the stock a year ago on closeout at Sportsmans Warehouse for $200.00 , and $325.00 for the Douglas barrel. The scope was on my M70 which now wears a Leupold 3-9x.
I think Remington would sell a bunch of rifles assembled like this one.
That rifle is a long way from it's former SPS origin. I dont have a big chunk of money into it ,either. $575.00 for the SPS, I got the stock a year ago on closeout at Sportsmans Warehouse for $200.00 , and $325.00 for the Douglas barrel. The scope was on my M70 which now wears a Leupold 3-9x.
I think Remington would sell a bunch of rifles assembled like this one.
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I want to add 6.5 & 7 BR to the chambering list ( Mike Walker came up with the case ) and the addition of the XR-100 action so there is a choice of single shot or repeater. I want to see the BR cases used so if you want load the 6.5x47 or 7x47 you just got to run a chambering reamer up in there like we used to do with xp-100's in the old days. The R-3 recoil pad should help with the beginners and the heavier recoiling rounds or factory ammo. I would like to see a stock with a little more drop in the toe like the first synthetic stocks that LeeSix used to make for Remington (mine measures 6"). I want to have them either raise the cheekpiece or offer a saddle like McMillian offers but uses screws to set the saddle at the max regulation height or wherever you take a notion. I'd like to see the complete gun weight come in 1/2 lb under weight so you can stick that extra weight at the forend or butt or anywhere in between. I like the #6 magnum sporter contour that Bob is using on his rifle.
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thats what i got, just not the new action, but one thats 40 years oldBlauBear wrote:Sounds like something I said in the Club House about Savage rifles that were accurate but ugly. It surprises me that nobody has built a rifle around the Savage custom action. It looks like a pretty good buy, since it includes a trigger, if it shoots well.Innocent wrote:Bob259,
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and now its with a gunsmith gettin a nesika bay stock put on it, this rifle will shoot one hole groups at 150 yards if i do my part.....
I do my best not to think i know it all, but i do know i know half of what i think i know now, so if i mess something up, cant i get an alibi?