Innocent wrote:

What if I just shot in drag?

Only if you wear stilettos. On the more serious side Mel, your balance is off, stock is too short, you are hunched up in an attempt to stand upright, right leg is not carrying equal weight, stomach muscles way too tight. Rarely can men reach their hip with their elbow like us with the weight of infants spreading our hips, but you can learn to rest the elbow against the chest and relax, balance the rifle rather than gripping and trying to wrap around something so small. Yes the breast help with building a shelf to rest the stock but still balance is far more important than most give credit for.

Mary

Thank you so much, Mary...... Dennis M. said some of the same for that stock.... I also have a Wooster-stocked 1712. Gotta go to Christmas Eve dinner now, but tomorrow I'll post another picture of that stock and gun, and maybe sometime you could take a look and let me know what you think there.....? Thanks1

The Kleenex or maybe two or three in the hand will show you what it is to move your hand out just a bit which will move your finger out a bit. Also may show that you need a bit more swell in the palm area of the stock. Moving it under your fingers will show what it is like to have your hand a bit closer to the trigger. You can also tape a bit of balsa wood on the trigger as a temporary shoe. Experiment. Merry Christmas

If you can get a copy of the "Russian Book" Competitive shooting by A.A Yuri Yev. it will show you a number of positions not just profiles, foot alignment etc, plus a good description of how to hold the rifle centered up over your feet. Problem is it's been out of print for some time and at times expensive off Amazon. Saw a copy recently for 50 bucks well worth the money. Modern book still available is David Tubbs first one High Power Rifle. His offhand position is textbook perfect.

Quick opinion based on the one photo. Raise the rifle up on thumb and forefingers put more back bend in the stance. Let you carry the weight over your feet instead of out in front and may make enough difference to get your elbow on your hip bone. Work it down slowly little bit at a time. Bone support is a lot better than elbow unsupported. Weight between your feet very important.

Boats

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Might be q little rough getting the tube under your vest ;)

Bob259 wrote:Might be q little rough getting the tube under your vest ;)

Rough crowd....

cedestech wrote:

Bob259 wrote:Might be q little rough getting the tube under your vest ;)

Rough crowd....

Shot for some time now, and never have I seen a tube. But if I ever do, the vest expands.....

OnaginOffagin wrote:

cedestech wrote:

Bob259 wrote:Might be q little rough getting the tube under your vest ;)

Rough crowd....

Shot for some time now, and never have I seen a tube. But if I ever do, the vest expands.....

Lol only time I've seen one is at the Nationals so not to worry

OnaginOffagin wrote:

Jerry G wrote:What if I just shot in drag? Would that help?

Yeah I think you should try a bra and fake boobs, see if that helps build the shelf right. I also hear mascara helps take the glare off, might want to add that in...

I sense I crossed some sort of line with this thread, so I removed the pictures.... would take it all off if I could..... but thanks all, for the serious replies and help. Appreciate it!

Don't let them bother you it's a valid question. The "Tube" is a check on vest fit, not supposed to wear a tight strapped in coat like the high power shooters do, rule book refers to a tube made of plastic pipe, has to fit in the vest to prove it's not tight.

Get David Tubbs book, send PMails if any questions

Boats

Bob259 on Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:55 am

Might be q little rough getting the tube under your vest

Wouldn't that depend on the size of the tube and who was trying to.................. aaaaw, never mind. I'm sure you are talking about the 4 inch diameter one.

OnaginOffagin wrote:I sense I crossed some sort of line with this thread, so I removed the pictures.... would take it all off if I could..... but thanks all, for the serious replies and help. Appreciate it!

I assure you, there is no line crossed.... your questions are valid and you can tell the serious answers from the 5 year olds.... We 5 year olds are just having fun.....

FWIW, My first year I spent watching the master class shooters, what they do and what they don't do. Emulate them and keep what works, substitute what doesn't....

Definitely no line crossed here. Feel free to put the pictures back on here, too. It will be very educational for new shooters who come along after you with the same questions. They'll probably have questions for you also, so you can pass on what you've learned to them. This is a really good topic, even if some of the responses haven't exactly been helpful.

Thank you for the outreach........

But I went ahead and put them up on my facebook account and got some very helpful comments from Dennis M. and Don Manning (a former National Guard High Power Champion), and that combined with the suggestions I got on here gave me plenty of ideas to work on....... I figure I just ain't tough enough for this place!

Like so many silhouette shooters, I'm well past my prime... I'll never be a champion, but that's okay... I can act like one anyway and continuously strive for improvement, and that's enough in itself. It's a great game, and well worth participating in regardless of your stance...or score! Thanks again...