adjustable comb and lop. nice.

I'm an older shooter with a limited income..... what's the word on Vortex? Anything? Friend of mine swears that their Crossfire II 4X12X40 AO is the best moderately priced scope that you can buy.... I have two Leupolds, one a fixed 16, and the other a 6X18X40, on two Wooster-stocked 1712s, one of which my wife is going to inherit and shoot next season..... but I need one more for my "indoor" position rifle....

Why the problem with annies? So others can shame us, I suppose.

Anschutz denies it is a problem.
My guess is that the extractors have a quality control problem and that the company finds it both too costly to fix
and to cover by warranty. I'm bringing it to a friend with the proper tools and experience. There's a sticky at RFC..a fix
that has proven very effective. Still, there's is a risk of taking too much material off, then having to re stock the parts, and further risk violation of warranty. A gunsmith at Styer is willing to do the fix if I send the entire rifle to him at my expense. Guessing: 40.00.

wphill wrote:Why the problem with annies? So others can shame us, I suppose.

Anschutz denies it is a problem.
My guess is that the extractors have a quality control problem and that the company finds it both too costly to fix
and to cover by warranty. I'm bringing it to a friend with the proper tools and experience. There's a sticky at RFC..a fix
that has proven very effective. Still, there's is a risk of taking too much material off, then having to re stock the parts, and further risk violation of warranty. A gunsmith at Styer is willing to do the fix if I send the entire rifle to him at my expense. Guessing: 40.00.

Keep us posted on the out come of this fix please,it might prove to be invaluable to us down in Oz!!!

Westy,

If you mean the fix posted at RFC sticky on the Anschutz forum,
I have heard directly from a forum member that it is very effective and
the drawings are excellent. Member reports that he has done the fix on
multiple annies and that he can get the shell to fall consistently to the same place on
the right side.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/sh ... p?t=471177

OnaginOffagin wrote:I'm an older shooter with a limited income..... what's the word on Vortex? Anything? Friend of mine swears that their Crossfire II 4X12X40 AO is the best moderately priced scope that you can buy.... I have two Leupolds, one a fixed 16, and the other a 6X18X40, on two Wooster-stocked 1712s, one of which my wife is going to inherit and shoot next season..... but I need one more for my "indoor" position rifle....

Vortex are more less considered hunting scopes with parallax of 50 yards. No good for indoors. I had one of their Vipers with target dot, which they don't make anymore. The glass on the Vipers are up there with the more predominant name target scopes. Look for scope with 10yd parallax. Good luck

teetertotter wrote:

OnaginOffagin wrote:I'm an older shooter with a limited income..... what's the word on Vortex? Anything? Friend of mine swears that their Crossfire II 4X12X40 AO is the best moderately priced scope that you can buy.... I have two Leupolds, one a fixed 16, and the other a 6X18X40, on two Wooster-stocked 1712s, one of which my wife is going to inherit and shoot next season..... but I need one more for my "indoor" position rifle....

Vortex are more less considered hunting scopes with parallax of 50 yards. No good for indoors. I had one of their Vipers with target dot, which they don't make anymore. The glass on the Vipers are up there with the more predominant name target scopes. Look for scope with 10yd parallax. Good luck

Well, this one, the Vortex Crossfire II, http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/cro ... oa-reticle, has an Adjustable Objective, and the specs list the parallax from 10 yards to infinity..... the turrets are also finger adjustable and re-settable..... If the glass is good, and the reticle is something I can live with, some sort of a combination crosshair/mill dot, it should do at 50'......we"ll see.... thanks for your input....

OnaginOffagin wrote:

teetertotter wrote:

OnaginOffagin wrote:I'm an older shooter with a limited income ...Well, this one, the Vortex Crossfire II, http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/cro ... oa-reticle ....

This is just myopinion.... if you are going to be limited to +/- $250 scope buy this : http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-Series-6-5 ... B002JF1ETA

I have SEVERAL of the 40/44 series scopes on several rifles/pistols and for the money they are very nice. The glass isn't Leupold or sightron quality but it is very good and they track VERY well.
They are Phillipine made. Biggest complaint Ihave with them is the AO isn't consistant from scope to scope, but the leaupolds I have are the same way so it's not a deal breaker. You are going
to mark you AO settings for the distances you want anyway. As far as I know Swift is the onlly company that ever addressed that in a smart way. Their scopes with CAO (Custom AO) were
blank and you got a set of very nice stickers to put on the AO ring where you wanted them.

Again, just my oppinion but I have several of the 40/44 series and if it were my $ I'd do the one listed above in a heart beat.

Well, I've ordered the crossfire, but when it comes, I'll take a look at it, and if unsure, I'll send it back and try the Weaver. As I mentioned, my silhouette rifles have Leupolds, and this one would be used mainly indoors on a position rifle....

OnaginOffagin wrote:Well, I've ordered the crossfire, but when it comes, I'll take a look at it, and if unsure, I'll send it back and try the Weaver. As I mentioned, my silhouette rifles have Leupolds, and this one would be used mainly indoors on a position rifle....

Ah.... what distance? The weavers go down to 20 yards.

cedestech wrote:

OnaginOffagin wrote:Well, I've ordered the crossfire, but when it comes, I'll take a look at it, and if unsure, I'll send it back and try the Weaver. As I mentioned, my silhouette rifles have Leupolds, and this one would be used mainly indoors on a position rifle....

Ah.... what distance? The weavers go down to 20 yards.

As I posted above, http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/cro ... oa-reticle, this "parallaxes" from 10yds to infinity.... Oh, did you mean the indoor distance....50 feet...which means the Weaver probably wouldn't do.....

Cool.

OnaginOffagin wrote:I'm an older shooter with a limited income..... what's the word on Vortex? Anything? Friend of mine swears that their Crossfire II 4X12X40 AO is the best moderately priced scope that you can buy.... I have two Leupolds, one a fixed 16, and the other a 6X18X40, on two Wooster-stocked 1712s, one of which my wife is going to inherit and shoot next season..... but I need one more for my "indoor" position rifle....

I shot this whole season with a crossfire2 before I got a leupold fx3. There is nothing wrong with the vortex, I just wanted to up the power. I went with their vbrite reticle which has a 3/8 moa dot and partial crosshairs. It held up fine to the repeated adjustments, never lost its zero. The AO is fine, no problems there either with the constant adjustments. I think it was a fine fine scope for $250.

OldRanger,
On your Vortex can you see the dot without illuminating it? How was it for bench rest at 50 & 100 yards?
Thanks
Jeff

Yes the dot is just black without illumination. Turns red with the light on. Problem is you can just barely see the red in full sunlight. Worked great for twilight gophering tho!

Its ok for benchresting I guess. Never really did much tho. It is a 6-18 power with a 44mm objective. Pretty clear, not quite a leupold, but not bad. It does have crosshairs but they stop short of the dot. Here is what it looks like