30-30 best lead loads for LA Silhouette

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Every barrel may produce different results but we hear we may get to sub MOA groups (=<1") at 100 yards with lead or lead gas check rounds.

Who can describe their bullets and powder combinations that are typical to 30-30 (Octagon barrel) that are near or sub MOA? Also want to know how tight, i.e. barrel slugs to .309 what should we size bullet to?

We ran a ladder tests and did subsequent group tests to get to our 2.2" groups at 100 yards. Currently using 31.6gr.W798 with 125gr. Sierra Match King Flat nose.
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We use either 165 Meister 0.309 or 165 Rimrock .310 for cpt over 9 gr TB. shoots about 1 inch at the 100m pig and which takes em down readily. The surprise was the ram load under 1 moa at ram using Matt's 183 grain 31141 gced bullet over 25.5 gr AA 2495 should be near 1900 fps. I have not miked the bore or throat since the WIn 94 Centennial (Commemorates the 66 the old yellow boy w/ a fake brass receiver) shoots them so well but prefer the .310 since should fill the throat better.
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that is with the 26" bbl
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These are tried and true loads for a 30-30 Win 94/26" bbl using Varget
With these loads there is no sight adjustment required between animals.
Ckn/Pig 150gr Sierra 30-30 RN 30gr Varget
Tky 150 gr Sierra 30-30 RN 33gr Varget
Ram 170gr Sierra 30-30 Rn 32gr Varget
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ppkny wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:45 am These are tried and true loads for a 30-30 Win 94/26" bbl using Varget
With these loads there is no sight adjustment required between animals.
Ckn/Pig 150gr Sierra 30-30 RN 30gr Varget
Tky 150 gr Sierra 30-30 RN 33gr Varget
Ram 170gr Sierra 30-30 Rn 32gr Varget
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Well, my first competiton 30-30 load was 34g of Varget unswer 30 carbine 110g rn and 150g Sierra fn.
I developed a flinch and switched to cast lead 350g and 405g subsonic 45-70. Did better.
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ppkny wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:45 am These are tried and true loads for a 30-30 Win 94/26" bbl using Varget
With these loads there is no sight adjustment required between animals.
Ckn/Pig 150gr Sierra 30-30 RN 30gr Varget
Tky 150 gr Sierra 30-30 RN 33gr Varget
Ram 170gr Sierra 30-30 Rn 32gr Varget
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What size groups at 100 yards or?
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shootmore:
100 yds is just the pig distance for CLA you should expect at least 1.5 inches or better. At 200yds,Rams it should be 3 inches or better. If you're not checking ammo loads with a scope on the gun it's hard to determine what your true spread is.
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sorry about my mistake i thought the use of the word "lead" in your query '30-30 best lead loads for LA Silhouette meant you were seeking cast bullet loads
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yes cast lead bullet loads
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I just got the Lyman "Cast Bullet Handbook" 4th Edition

I have Load BooK USA for most of the calibers I shoot and regular Lyman on Ebook.

The Cast Handbook has tons more cast lead data.
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ppkny wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:45 am These are tried and true loads for a 30-30 Win 94/26" bbl using Varget
With these loads there is no sight adjustment required between animals.
Ckn/Pig 150gr Sierra 30-30 RN 30gr Varget
Tky 150 gr Sierra 30-30 RN 33gr Varget
Ram 170gr Sierra 30-30 Rn 32gr Varget
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Have you used any H4895 for your loads?
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I've had some good results using 4831sc but Varget is my go to powder for my 30-30
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Varget is hard to beat in the 30-30.
30.0 with a 125 Sierra for C-P
32-33.5 with a 170 Sierra for T-R
These loads are very accurate and with the 33.5 of Varget and the 170 Sierra I had no problems with Rams for a 5 year period. If I hit them they fell.
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I judge all my rifles, except 3p 50m,by what groups can consistently shoot at 100 yards. What are your five shot groups at 100 yards?
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If you're asking me, I've got no good idea. I got it about a week before the TSRA lever match last year and sighted it in 2-days before. I've got until October 9 to get a few loads sorted or just shoot the rest of the factory ammo I have.

I asked about H4895 bc you can do reduced loads with it, which could be about the same as a 125gr.
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