I'm looking into buying a nice air rifle for basement practice. I need something quiet, accurate, and that simulates the feel of a SB Silhouette rifle somewhat closely.

I'm thinking of an older match rifle, something like a Walther LGR or a FWB300S, but if there are other (or better) choices, I'm certainly interested in learning about them. I'm not looking to spend $1000, but I also realize that nice stuff does not come cheaply.

My concern about the PCP rifles is the noise associated with the high power levels that I normally equate to PCP rifles. I don't need a 1000+ fps air rifle that sounds like a .22 to shoot 10M in my basement. I'm hoping for something "mellow", easy and pleasant to shoot. Being "scope-able" would be a defininte plus.

I have heard that the Walther LGR's are more scope friendly than the FWB 300's, so that would probably be my current first choice.

Are there places that specialize in selling 10M air rifles (new or used)? I'm not currently having much luck finding these sources online.

SteveM.

My PCP Styer LG100AZ, with a moderator, makes very little noise. The trouble you'll find with any good springer is I believe they make as much or in many cases more noise then a PCP. A PCP with a moderator is by far the quietest, but unfortunately all good air rifles usually run more then their powder charged brothers.

Go out an look at the different types and pictures at Straight Shooters http://www.straightshooters.com/ or Pyramyd Air http://www.pyramydair.com/ or Air Hog http://www.airhog.com/. There are many, many choices and I have several favorites I'd be more than happy to discuss with you.

I have an Anschutz 8002 that I shoot in my basement. I get just over 10 meters and my Leupold 6.5-20 EFR just barely focuses down that close.

Its a little loud, but nothing like a 22.

Many a pigeon has been schwacked in my hangar by this 8002... If they wouldnt crap on my parachutes and airdrop equipment, I would leave them alone.

Steve,
If you want the weight and feel to be close to Hunter class, you might want to consider an HW97 or TX200.... I have shot mine in the garage into an old phone book...pretty quiet and can also be used effectively for pest control out to about 50 yds if need be (both are VERY accurate). Make sure you put something substantial behind the phone book if you go this direction....both rifles shoot 900fps+ in 177 cal., Even the big Houston phone book cant stop these after very many shots.
If you have the $, I agree - the moderated PCP is by far the quietest option.....but remember, any of the German/Austrian/Swiss airgun triggers are going to be nicer/lighter than any SB Hunter silhouette gun (2lb min pull).
Also, you will be limited to a VERY short scope if you go for the LGR....the pop-up gate is very restrictive.
Hope this helps,
Brad

For the money you might want to look at a simple crack barrel rig lke the RWS Model 34. If you like that for $200 or less you could always upgrade in the future to a TX200 or PCP. Just make sure your scope is airgun rated if you get a spring gun. If you have not used airguns I start cheap with a good RWS for basement practice and even hunting before you get addicted to the high dollar stuff then its all over from there. Ask me how I know lol

here are some deals just posted the other day. nice savings on these rifles.


Here is a list from UMAREX of their Demo deals currently in stock as of yesterday. Quantities are limited and many are only 1 item. Call for availability/ordering - can't be ordered online
Demo price is first without shipping, then full bore retail...

Umarex USA, Inc.
6007 South 29th Street
Fort Smith, Arkansas 72908
Phone: 479-646-4210
Fax: 479-646-4206

UMAREX USA Confidential Price List
RWS Air Rifles
Model Item/Description Cal/Ammo/Demoprice/Sugg.Retail
Model 34
216-6160 RWS -Model 34 .177 Pellet $130.31 $236.92
216-6165 RWS -Model 34 .22 Pellet $130.31 $236.92
216-6164 RWS -Model 34 Combo (4X32 Compact w/C-mount) .177 Pellet $152.73 $277.69
216-6159 RWS -Model 34 Combo (4X32 Compact w/C-mount) .22 Pellet $152.73 $277.69
Model 34 Panther
216-6022 RWS -Model 34 Panther .177 Pellet $117.53 $213.69
216-6023 RWS -Model 34 Panther .22 Pellet $117.53 $213.69
216-6025 RWS -Model 34 Panther Combo (4X32 Compact w/C-mount .177 Pellet $139.95 $254.46
216-6024 RWS -Model 34 Panther Combo (4X32 Compact w/C-mount .22 Pellet $139.95 $254.46
Model 350 Magnum
216-6155 RWS -Model 350 Magnum .177 Pellet $232.61 $422.92
216-6150 RWS -Model 350 Magnum .22 Pellet $232.61 $422.92
216-6154 RWS -Model 350 Magnum Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .177 Pellet $254.90 $463.46
216-6151 RWS -Model 350 Magnum Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .22 Pellet $254.90 $463.46
Model 48
216-6200 RWS -Model 48 .177 Pellet $225.08 $409.23
216-6205 RWS -Model 48 .22 Pellet $225.08 $409.23
216-6199 RWS -Model 48 Combo (4X32 Compact w/C-mount) .177 Pellet $247.50 $450.00
216-6202 RWS -Model 48 Combo (4X32 Compact w/C-mount) .22 Pellet $247.50 $450.00
Model 52
216-6210 RWS -Model 52 .177 Pellet $264.38 $480.69
216-6215 RWS -Model 52 .22 Pellet $264.38 $480.69
216-6214 RWS -Model 52 Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .177 Pellet $286.85 $521.54
216-6218 RWS -Model 52 Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .22 Pellet $286.85 $521.54
Model 54
216-6220 RWS -Model 54 .177 Pellet $375.27 $682.31
216-6225 RWS -Model 54 .22 Pellet $375.27 $682.31
216-6226 RWS -Model 54 Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .177 Pellet $397.48 $722.69
216-6227 RWS -Model 54 Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .22 Pellet $397.48 $722.69
Model 460 Magnum
216-6445 RWS -Model 460 .177 Pellet $316.97 $576.31
216-6447 RWS -Model 460 .22 Pellet $316.97 $576.31
216-6446 RWS -Model 460 Magnum Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .177 Pellet $339.39 $617.08
216-6448 RWS -Model 460 Magnum Combo (4X32 w/C-Mount) .22 Pellet $339.39 $617.08
Model 5G Magnum
216-6925 5G Magnum Pistol (P5) .177 Pellet $129.51 $235.48

Hammerli Air Rifles
850 Air Magnum
225-1000 Hammerli -850 Air Magnum .177 Pellet $136.44 $248.08
225-1001 Hammerli -850 Air Magnum .22 Pellet $136.44 $248.08
225-1002 Hammerli -850 Air Magnum Combo (w/ 4x32 Scope) .177 Pellet $158.65 $288.46
Storm
224-1002 Hammerli -Storm .177 Pellet $94.13 $171.15
224-1004 Hammerli -Storm .22 Pellet $94.13 $171.15
224-1003 Hammerli -Storm Combo (4x32 Compact with Rings) .177 Pellet $116.56 $211.92
224-1005 Hammerli -Storm Combo (4x32 Compact with Rings) .22 Pellet $116.56 $211.92
Storm Elite
224-1006 Hammerli -Storm Elite (nickel) .177 Pellet $122.27 $222.31
Razor
224-1007 Hammerli -Razor .177 Pellet $170.08 $309.23
224-1008 Hammerli -Razor .22 Pellet $170.08 $309.23
Nova
224-1009 Hammerli -Nova .177 Pellet $188.06 $341.92
Quick (Youth Air Rifle)
224-1000 Hammerli -Quick (youth) .177 Pellet $56.48 $102.69
224-1001 Hammerli -Quick (youth) Combo (4X32 Compact with Rings .177 Pellet $78.90 $143.46
Walther Air Rifles
Lever Action Air Rifle
225-2000 Walther -Lever Action Air Rifle .177 Pellet $148.05 $269.18
225-2001 Walther -Lever Action Air Rifle (w/ 4x 32 Scope) .177 Pellet $162.86 $296.11
225-2002 Walther -Lever Action Air Rifle (Wells Fargo Edition -gold) .177 Pellet $177.67 $323.03
225-2501 Scope Mount for Walther Lever Action N/A $17.82 $32.40
Beretta Air Rifles
Beretta CX4 Storm
225-3005 CX4 Storm .177 Pellet $152.31 $276.92



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