A word about carbon fiber cleaning rods.
I'm very sceptical of them for a few reasons.
#1. Carbon fiber can be affected by solvents over time.
#2. Carbon fiber rods much like carbon arrows can shatter with repeated pounding. I have arrows that I use only for practice and dispose of after a year or two at most. Hunting arrows are used once even if they don't break.
Food for thought.
As far as my rods I use the Dewey coated with a chamber guide and Butch's solvent.

You mean people actually clean a small bore barrel
My Shilen barrel still shoots 5 shots into a 3/4 inch group at 100 yards and I have not cleaned it yet. As long as it shoots like that, I don't see any reason to clean it.

If and when I do ever clean it, I will use weed eater string with a patch and pull it through from the chamber end.

Another Dang 9 wrote:A word about carbon fiber cleaning rods.
I'm very sceptical of them for a few reasons.
#1. Carbon fiber can be affected by solvents over time.
#2. Carbon fiber rods much like carbon arrows can shatter with repeated pounding. I have arrows that I use only for practice and dispose of after a year or two at most. Hunting arrows are used once even if they don't break.
Food for thought.
As far as my rods I use the Dewey coated with a chamber guide and Butch's solvent.

1. I have carbon fiber rods that are 10 years old that are as smooth on the outside as they were the day I got them. I guess it's possible that they could be affected by solvents, but don't appear to have been affected by them. I wipe the solvents off of them when I pull them out of the bore, though, just like I did when I used coated rods.
2. As above, my carbon fiber rods are still in great shape after years of use. I don't pound on my cleaning rods, though. I also don't shoot them at things.

Carbon rods can and have shattered on users, but I would think that shouldn't be an issue with proper use.

I actually just ordered a carbon rod. I probably have no reason to have one as my stainless Ivy rod would likely be perfectly fine, but I was looking at the brass cone muzzle guides for cleaning rods and Gunslick sells a carbon rod that comes with one so I bit not being certain of the ID of the guide in relation to the OD of my Ivy rod. I wanted an easier way to brush my semi auto silhouette gun than pulling the barreled action, dropping the trigger, removing the bolt and pulling a brush on nylon coated rod through.

I'll be able to brush/jag from the muzzle end and have more control over bore contact with this muzzle guide. Very neat.

https://www.amazon.com/Gunslick-1-Piece ... B00162KSCQ

Jason, good point about not shooting them.lol I guess I over stated my point. Maybe my next rod will be a carbon rod just to try one.

Another Dang 9 wrote:Jason, good point about not shooting them.lol I guess I over stated my point. Maybe my next rod will be a carbon rod just to try one.

The Gunslick rod I linked earlier seems nice and well made with good bearings in the handle, but the muzzle guard is far too large to fit in the crown of a .22lr. Waiting on word back from Gunslick support. In the meantime, I ordered a Dewey guard to see how it fits.

Doodaddy wrote:

Another Dang 9 wrote:Jason, good point about not shooting them.lol I guess I over stated my point. Maybe my next rod will be a carbon rod just to try one.

The Gunslick rod I linked earlier seems nice and well made with good bearings in the handle, but the muzzle guard is far too large to fit in the crown of a .22lr. Waiting on word back from Gunslick support. In the meantime, I ordered a Dewey guard to see how it fits.

Scratch that. The condescending Gunslick representative I spoke to was incapable of comprehending the idea of a guard that has a larger outside diameter than the inside diameter of the bore not fitting properly. I'll just have something custom made for my Ivy rod and do it that way.

I've been using .17 cal rods for all my .22 guns. You can buy an adapter for them so .22 jag will fit. No muzzle guides fit. .22 as far as I know but making one out of brass or delrin will work with a .17 cal rod.

You can make a pretty good rod guide for a 22 rifle and a .17 cal rod using whatever that common .17 rimfire case is that litters the firing line at every range that I have ever been to. I dont know what it is called but it has a bit of a bottleneck. Works great for my .22 low walls for instance.

BrentD wrote:You can make a pretty good rod guide for a 22 rifle and a .17 cal rod using whatever that common .17 rimfire case is that litters the firing line at every range that I have ever been to. I dont know what it is called but it has a bit of a bottleneck. Works great for my .22 low walls for instance.

By your description 17HMR would be the most likely culprit.

That sounds like it. It is the most common 17 cal rimfire you see on the ground. Works great with my Dewey rod (which I don't really like).

I don't own a bolt action but it works fine on my single shots and on my lever guns (from either end).