Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
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Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
I am currently using the last of my existing stock of Fed 205M that I've had for some time.
However, the current primer drought in Tasmania means that the next deliveries are expected in "june or july - hopefully".
What other options should I try - I have some RP7 1/2 but these have given me not-inconsistent hangfires, so I am looking for something else that's a bit hotter.
thanks,
Nigel.
However, the current primer drought in Tasmania means that the next deliveries are expected in "june or july - hopefully".
What other options should I try - I have some RP7 1/2 but these have given me not-inconsistent hangfires, so I am looking for something else that's a bit hotter.
thanks,
Nigel.
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
Like you, I have some CCI BR4's that I've had stock piled. It used to be that you could walk into any gun store around here and get SR primers, but not anymore. I know for a short time Brunos had some made by Wolf, I don't know who has any now!
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
I'm using CCI BR4's in mine. The good news is I think they are freeing up. I just got a call fom Bruno's on Friday that my Back Order on the BR4's was being filled and shipped. Prices are a bit higher, but at least I'll have primers for next year now.
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
I hear alot of guys are using CCI Small Rifle Magnum primers in their 6.5x47's with very good results.
Just an aside on the primer situation. Powder Valley Inc. has a pretty good selection of Wolf primers in stock. In addition, they have CCI BR4 Small Rifle primers in stock at $37.00/1000 (Bruno's is charging (raping?) $59.95/1000), they also have CCI Small Rifle Magnum primers in stock at $24.50/1000 (Bruno's does not have them in stock and when they do they will bend you over to the tune of $44.95/1000). Given the way Bruno's is taking advantage of the current situation, I think I am safe in saying that they will never see another dime from me!!!
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Just an aside on the primer situation. Powder Valley Inc. has a pretty good selection of Wolf primers in stock. In addition, they have CCI BR4 Small Rifle primers in stock at $37.00/1000 (Bruno's is charging (raping?) $59.95/1000), they also have CCI Small Rifle Magnum primers in stock at $24.50/1000 (Bruno's does not have them in stock and when they do they will bend you over to the tune of $44.95/1000). Given the way Bruno's is taking advantage of the current situation, I think I am safe in saying that they will never see another dime from me!!!
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
Jim T. wrote:I hear alot of guys are using CCI Small Rifle Magnum primers in their 6.5x47's with very good results.
Just an aside on the primer situation. Powder Valley Inc. has a pretty good selection of Wolf primers in stock. In addition, they have CCI BR4 Small Rifle primers in stock at $37.00/1000 (Bruno's is charging (raping?) $59.95/1000), they also have CCI Small Rifle Magnum primers in stock at $24.50/1000 (Bruno's does not have them in stock and when they do they will bend you over to the tune of $44.95/1000). Given the way Bruno's is taking advantage of the current situation, I think I am safe in saying that they will never see another dime from me!!!
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Thanks Jim... I always trusted Brunos.. I never will again.
Just order 5K from Powder Valley and even with the HazMat fee and shipping, to ship the ones from Bruno's back to them for credit, I'm ahead.....
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
I agree, Powder Valley is the cheaper, and as of yesterday, they had a good supply of primers.
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
Nigel,fwt1712 wrote:I am currently using the last of my existing stock of Fed 205M that I've had for some time.
However, the current primer drought in Tasmania means that the next deliveries are expected in "june or july - hopefully".
What other options should I try - I have some RP7 1/2 but these have given me not-inconsistent hangfires, so I am looking for something else that's a bit hotter.
thanks,
Nigel.
My hunter rifle is a 6.5 x 47 Lapua, I have close to 1200 round down the barrel and all but 100 have been Remington 7-1/2 BR primers. No hang fires and the gun will hold 1/2MOA or less out to the rams. I use Reloader 15 under 107's for C, P, T, and 142's for the rams. I used Varget to start with but did not get the velocity I wanted for the rams. What powder are you using that you having hanfires with the Remington primers? The only other primer that I tried were some CCI small rifle magnums.
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
If you have a choice of Wolf primers, I am told that their Small Rifle Magnum primer has the same pellet as the small rifle primer, but has a thicker (& tougher) cup. The Rem 7 1/2 primer is a tough and durable primer in my experience with them. They used to be regarded as a fairly hot primer.
Lately I have used the CCI 450 small rifle magnum with my 6.5x47L hunter rifle. They have worked fine with both Varget and H4350 loads for me. It is supposedly warmer than the CCI small rifle benchrest primer. I have not compared them recently, but the CCI small rifle benchrest primers I have used in the past were fairly mild primers which were very consistent. Small cartridges like the 7mm TCU used to work very well with them.
I would be inclined to go through the rifle that has experienced the misfires with the Rem 7 1/2 primers to make sure there was not a problem with the ignition system. I would clean the striker assembly and check that nothing is dragging and the trigger is cleanly releasing it. I would also measure the striker fall.
Are you using a Jewell trigger? There was a time when one of their suppliers changed a part that resulted in ignition problems because it reduced the striker fall by about 0.050". I had one rifle that experienced misfires in cool weather that I eventually traced to this problem.
There is also the possibility that the Rem 7 1/2 primers may not be getting seated fully or consistently. The primer pockets on my 6.5x46L brass are fairly tight
and the Rem 7 1/2 primers I have used seemed a little larger than the CCI small rifle benchrest primers, though I never bothered to actually measure them. They just took more seating effort. Perhaps Paul can comment about this in his experience with current production Rem 7 1/2 primers.
Rick
Lately I have used the CCI 450 small rifle magnum with my 6.5x47L hunter rifle. They have worked fine with both Varget and H4350 loads for me. It is supposedly warmer than the CCI small rifle benchrest primer. I have not compared them recently, but the CCI small rifle benchrest primers I have used in the past were fairly mild primers which were very consistent. Small cartridges like the 7mm TCU used to work very well with them.
I would be inclined to go through the rifle that has experienced the misfires with the Rem 7 1/2 primers to make sure there was not a problem with the ignition system. I would clean the striker assembly and check that nothing is dragging and the trigger is cleanly releasing it. I would also measure the striker fall.
Are you using a Jewell trigger? There was a time when one of their suppliers changed a part that resulted in ignition problems because it reduced the striker fall by about 0.050". I had one rifle that experienced misfires in cool weather that I eventually traced to this problem.
There is also the possibility that the Rem 7 1/2 primers may not be getting seated fully or consistently. The primer pockets on my 6.5x46L brass are fairly tight
Rick
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Re: Which primer for 6.5 x 47L
So far I've only tried AR2208 (Varget) around 34-36 grains with 85-142 grain projectiles.
The action is new, and is also fitted with a new Jewell. The firing pin assembly has been cleaned and lightly re-lubed to get rid of an annoying squeak when it was first set up, so that should be ok.
I haven't put a lot of rounds through but would have shot 350 rounds with mostly 205m (and perhaps 20 CCI450) with no hangfires. Of around 30 shots with RP71/2s 3 or 4 were hangfires i.e. click/bang, a delay of perhaps only 1/10th of a second - but noticeable, and out of the group.
Interestingly the hangfires were only with 85gners but I suspect that is just a coincidence.
I do recall that the RPs were hard to seat so that could be the problem.
Nigel.
The action is new, and is also fitted with a new Jewell. The firing pin assembly has been cleaned and lightly re-lubed to get rid of an annoying squeak when it was first set up, so that should be ok.
I haven't put a lot of rounds through but would have shot 350 rounds with mostly 205m (and perhaps 20 CCI450) with no hangfires. Of around 30 shots with RP71/2s 3 or 4 were hangfires i.e. click/bang, a delay of perhaps only 1/10th of a second - but noticeable, and out of the group.
Interestingly the hangfires were only with 85gners but I suspect that is just a coincidence.
I do recall that the RPs were hard to seat so that could be the problem.
Nigel.