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Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:11 pm
by Szumi
For rimfire in this sport, how is the trajectory affected by a strong headwind? I had a bad day last weekend and so did my two friends that usually shoot much better. I'm trying to figure out why we all bad a bad day on the same day. We have not been doing this very long so we are neophytes.

Thanks,

Szumi

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:35 pm
by dustinflint
A strong headwind can cause the point of impact to be lower. Where you guys missing low? Plus, if you are having heavy wind gusts, the wind can move you around and hurt your score.

Dustin

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:17 am
by Innocent
Dustin, while in many cases shooting into a strong headwind will cause a bullet drop, if you are shooting on a range that shoots uphill, a strong headwind will cause a bullet rise. And on some ranges I have seen a split situation where you might be shooting both up and down hill at the different distances. This is where a spotter comes in, calling your shots for you.

Mary

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:01 am
by Merlin
Gravity works 24 hours a day in all winds. In some winds the bullet falls faster than others..but...

Where is that diagram posted that shows the effects of various wind directions on bullet flight.....?

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:29 am
by Trent
Innocent wrote:Dustin, while in many cases shooting into a strong headwind will cause a bullet drop, if you are shooting on a range that shoots uphill, a strong headwind will cause a bullet rise. And on some ranges I have seen a split situation where you might be shooting both up and down hill at the different distances. This is where a spotter comes in, calling your shots for you.

Mary
Mary, I think you should write a book and put in it all your knowledge about silhouette and some of your stories of funny experiences you've had along the way. I know I'd sure as heck buy it!! You could have chapters on technique, mental skills, equipment, ammo, people, traveling to matches... etc.

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:33 am
by Bob259
Trent wrote:Mary, I think you should write a book and put in it all your knowledge about silhouette and some of your stories of funny experiences you've had along the way. I know I'd sure and heck buy it!! You could have chapters on technique, mental skills, equipment, ammo, people, traveling to matches... etc.
Tent moving 101, Flag misplacement, Changing an Aussie flag to a New Zeland flag, The Birthday Dance... Oh all the chapters that could be written... =)) =)) =))

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:39 pm
by Szumi
The range we were shooting at has a fairly significant down angle to the critters. Next year, since this was the last shoot for this year at that range, I'm going to measure what that angle is since how I hold the rifle to practice on paper targets mounted level is way different from shooting down at the target banks. I have much to learn about this.

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:59 pm
by Gator
[quote="Trent
Mary, I think you should write a book and put in it all your knowledge about silhouette and some of your stories of funny experiences you've had along the way. I know I'd sure as heck buy it!! You could have chapters on technique, mental skills, equipment, ammo, people, traveling to matches... etc.[/quote]

I can add a few pages to "Innocent's" book. Hi Lady.....

Der Gator

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:02 pm
by Innocent
Aw come on the best was teaching young Mexicans at Ben Avery to fill 400 plus water balloons to be used at a later time after Aunt T. Everheart duct taped Kevin Lawton to the flag pole for his 15th birthday. I did nothing but teach some fine young children the art of tying balloons.

As for downhill shooting in headwinds, that can be a challenge in itself. You don't mention which range, but not just angle that matters. Are there any possible thermal hot spots, or places where there might get some cross winds? Grass in high humidity can cause some interesting wind swirls. The last right animal bank on the left side on Winnsboro is an interesting spot because of the berm break in front of turkeys.
Raton has a compound incline from extreme right side chicken end to left side ram line, not really noticeable unless you sit low at the far right end and look back to the rams. Milroy probably has the greatest incline of any range I have shot, although Benton has almost as much decline.
So Trent how is school going, learned to talk the teachers into reasonable timing on the tests yet?

Innocent Mary

Re: Shooting into a head wind question

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:26 pm
by Jerry G
A 10 MPH wind is less than 15 FPS. You do the math. That sais, the spinn of the bullet shooting into a headwind will make the bullet drop just a little. Nogt enough to put the shot out of your group.