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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:31 pm
by BlauBear
59?! Dang Ducky, you musta' been dipped in plastic!

Pretty sad, Bob. SS is theoretically funded for another 50 years if the Federal Government pays back the money borrowed to offset the deficit.

Medical care is the scarier problem. Story goes that Congressional Republicans and the AMA would have agreed to a universal health care plan on the Medicare model in the early '90's, but Hillary didn't ask their advice and that completely sank the project. That's a big part of the money troubles plaguing GM, Ford, Chrysler and the rest of industrial America since medical benefits were negotiated based on the expectation that some form of universal health care would be in place, so now it's killing their ability to compete.

Add an acute doctor shortage due to get worse. Maybe ten years ago there were 7.4 applicants for each med school slot and today there are 1.7 so to quote a doctor friend, if you ever wanted to be a doctor, now's the time. His point to the room (2 ministers, 2 doctors, 4 teachers) was that of these three worst professions, being a doctor sucked least because they made more. Funny guy...

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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:35 pm
by coppertop
POW & MILF 2008!!!!!!!!!!!! NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:48 pm
by BlauBear
Bob259 wrote:What I'd like some candadite to say and mean;
1) all aid to foreign countries stopped till we get our problems straight.
2) all troops home and securing our borders, not someone elses
3) Free medical and home care for all our elderly. (I take care of my 97 year old mother and they get about zip from the government)
4) off shoring of jobs is so heavly taxed we'd keep our jobs here
5) with the aid savings Gov't funding of alternate energy options and the building og hydrogen & elecic charging stations nation wide
6) Term limits on all the idiots in Washington

I don't give one shit about who said this or that, campagin BS and lies, what church you go to, etc, etc.....
Give me someone with enough spine to get us out of the mess we are in and use OUR Tax dollars on US, not someone else who really doesn't want us there or give two shits about us, only our money.

There... my 2 cents :-)
Not much to argue with there Bob. Spouse Unit's 84 year old mother lives with us, sometimes grudgingly (something about odd noises from the garage late at night), but we all know that, even after working all her life, alone she'd live in absolute poverty.

We're facing some very tough choices.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:25 am
by Innocent
BB,
16 point total spread....going once.
And I even got two and half hours sleep.
Innocent

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:50 am
by duckgumbo
AMEN!

Right on Bob. Fuck all the ingrates that do not like us or want us there.

We NEVER should have gone to Iraq, but just wiped out Afganistan down to the earth!

If we really want to solve the midEast problems, we just need to get the hell out of there and turn Israel loose! Does the Massad mean anything to you? Hell, it took them MANY years to get Eichmann and they had to put him in a trunk and take him back! I am all for teh Hebrews in that part of the world!

ARE MY POST COUNTS UP?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:19 am
by BlauBear
Dang, and folks thought my views on Iran were extreme! Simple: Quietly inform them they may pursue nuclear power but only light water technology that can't be weaponized. Any other nuclear facility will be scourged. Any facility supplying personnel or material for attacks on the U.S. or our allies will be scourged. And I'm the liberal here...

Yes, we need to pursue our global interests and get our own house in order, with just about equal priority, before trying to buy solutions for the rest of the world. Something about "Charity begins at home" comes to mind.

As I write this CNN is reporting the collapse of Lehman Bros., a 158 year old, blue chip firm. I won't politicize the problem because that would be simplistic. All involved can share "credit" for this situation and we all get to pay.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:41 am
by Bob259
BB, it was GREED that caused it. These guys all jumped in on the housing boom and forgot all the rules. Now they want to be bailed out while there exec's all got millions and millions in bonus's over the last few years.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:51 am
by BlauBear
Ya' think? It's a repeat of the internet bubble on a larger scale. Everyone thinks the law of gravity has been repealed and jumps in, then acts surprised when it just ain't so. Dumb. And greedy. And most of the ones that got rich walk away while we clean up their broken glass.

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:46 am
by Innocent
Four points going once.
Innocent

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:51 am
by BlauBear
Innocent wrote:Four points going once.
Innocent
Talk to my agent, Mary... 8)

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:09 am
by Bob259
BlauBear wrote:
Innocent wrote:Four points going once.
Innocent
Talk to my agent, Mary... 8)
Mary, He accepts :-)

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:30 am
by jneihouse
Innocent,

You're at 4, we're at 5, lets split down the middle at 4.5, which would be 18 over the course of the weekend.......By the way, how did I get in the middle of this???

Kitty

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:41 am
by Innocent
Commander Kitty,
come I started at two....I've come more than half way and he is the one that will be using familiar equipment. Four.

BTW why aren't you my agent?

Innocent

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:56 am
by jneihouse
Yeah, you did come up from two and will be using unfamiliar equipment....But I think BB is going to the range tonight to sight in an unfamiliar gun that he's going to shoot at Benton instead of Rainy Day Annie (boy is that gun going to be pissed)...so 4 it is then.....Guess I was up for grabs as an "agent" and BB grabbed first....You should have been quicker....These negotiations have been easy, since it's not my money that the loser will be spending on steak.. :lol:

What have you and El Puma got riding on your side match??

Kitty

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:48 pm
by Innocent
El Puma and I have dinner riding on the side match...not sure who will be coookng what! Actually he has done a wonderful job dealing with Don's back problems and we've still got a long way to go, so I owe him a dinner anyway.

Innocent