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Roswell

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:27 am
by Innocent
JB,
My trip to NM was unannounced to my CPA (current pelvic affiliation) for several reasons, primarily to go toe to toe (as Dawg would call it) with a "friend" of Don's who held 12 of his guns for him for safekeeping while he came back to Florida for shoulder surgery in Jan.. The surgery was not performed for a number of reasons but he spent four months here in PT before returning to Atresia where the property is. After several weeks he had a safe installed and went to retrieve his firearms from his friend...he recieved the 5 air guns and one 'boat shotgun' back. The six precision firearms including and Annie with 6.5-20 leupy, a 700 in 222 with a Doulas barrel, a Smith 41 with red dot...etc were not returned, and each time Don asked about them his friend became angry and denied having them, telling him that he must have left them in Raton with his other guns (at another friends house). Don had bought the inventory list back to Florida with him and left it with me, so he went to Raton after I sent him a copy to see if he had mismarked his list and to get his other guns. While ther he was going to shoot some p-dogs with a Sako and another 700 that I had given him. He was sighting them in at Whittington on the 8th, and while driving back to town he totalled his truck (thus my not appearing immediately for my AAA trophy in the YouTube clip). He was lucky in the several competitors from a match going on at WC came upon the accident and gathered up all the guns and equipment and took it into BJ's Shootin shop for him while he was in the hospital.

Upon his return to Artesia Don spent several days getting his friend alone and then showing him the inventory list which had everything correctly marked...the man again insisted that the guns had never been given to him so Don suggested that he would have to report them missing with last known place being at this mans place of business. He was told to arrive at the business at 10 am the next day and his friend would call law enforcement and they could each give their statements. Having heard that I made a call to an friend of a fellow club shooter here that night, unable to get him I left a message as to what was going on. Some how between going to church on that evening and praying about it until sometime around 04:30 in the morning (according to his friend) the missing firearms showed up under a bed at his house in a bed room that no one had been in over a year.

I felt it was time I met a such a wealthy man that he has over 325 guns in his collection, and uses God as guide to find missing guns when it becomes apparent that there is some written proof of ownership of said guns.

In dealing with a man in his own territorty the element of surprise has it's benefits. I will say that I remained cordial but I do not believe that the man likes me, not that I really care.

As for going to Roswell to shoot, it was to get Don away from Artestia and to a match such that my going to shoot in El Paso (200+ miles away) was not a big deal...as the match in El Paso had several medical professionals present that were prepared to talk with him and get the concept of having an MRI done a little more plausible...as his shoulder has been re-injured and he being the stubborn man that he is, refuses to see local medical profession.

So JB as to whether I was probed in Roswell...I am surprised that you would ask such a question, but I will answer that with 'use your own imagination.' I will say that I was at the very least verbally probed by several that were surprised to see me. And I made it worth my while to go to Hobbs and pick up another Premier that had been for sale there for over a year, and I couldn't get Mike B to pick it up for me.

That my friend is my story and I'm sticking to it...hope to see you in CO if I'm not working with the liberal Italian (Dutch actually), Canadians and the Swiss, hopefully we will be done testing by that weekend.

I remain Innocent.

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:52 pm
by genphideaux
Would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that.

Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:25 pm
by BlauBear
It would seem Mary was the prober, not the probee...

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:56 am
by Innocent
Aw come on Dawg, admit it you would have loved to have been in the middle of that discussion. No threats just my appearing made my point clear...not to mention Don was glad to see me.

Innocent

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:36 am
by genphideaux
Yeah, well now that you mention it, I would have. I must admit I do like watching you when you are on the scrap. Just tickles me to death to watch a bare footed chick whooping ass. I know it

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:28 am
by Innocent
Dawg,
I'm usually fairly non-commital when it comes to other people and what they do with their possesions but several of the rifles involved were last yellow formed in my name as they were gifts to Don. So my interest in this minor 'confusion' about what rifles were where became very personal quickly, when it became apparent the the man was going to try to play games. I might add that I wore shoes there...didn't want to hurt my toes, I figured this isn't the first time he has pulled some kind of shit on people considering he supposedly has over 325 firearms.

Innocent

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:59 pm
by mordecai
Outstanding...

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:48 pm
by shakes
I want to say WOW!!!! I think you guys and gal handled this very professional. I would have taken the motherfucker out behind the tool shed and and left a very large indentation in his skull, taken all 325 guns, figured out which were mine and sold the rest, but that's just me :twisted:

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:44 pm
by jneihouse
That's what Innocent would have done if she hadn't been on a schedule......Of course, had she needed to she could have brought the full weight of F-Tard Troop to bear on the situation.....Wouldn't have been pretty, no sir, not pretty at all....

Commander Kitty

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:15 pm
by BlauBear
jneihouse wrote:...Of course, had she needed to she could have brought the full weight of F-Tard Troop to bear on the situation.....Wouldn't have been pretty, no sir, not pretty at all....

Commander Kitty
Oh, I don't know, artistically done revenge does have an aesthetic appeal.

Screwing with gun folk over guns is dumb and it has nothing to do with violence and everything to do with who we are, who we know, creativity and - oh yeah - ATF. Possession of stolen firearms does get pretty ugly, especially when they comb through his entire collection. Hmmm, stolen, prohibited, illegally modified and ooh - where did this military rifle come from?

And I'll just bet one of Ducky's Democrats knows his new best friend at Club Fed...

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:04 pm
by Innocent
Let us not forget the NM law is who has the biggest gun, usually. But then Artesia is the city that the new Federal Law Enfocement Training Center has been established in, so despite being a liflelong resident of that city, I suspect the man ( I refuse to call him a gentleman, he never once offered me a chair to sit in), may have decided that his place of business and home could and would be crawling with Feds rather quickly, if I became too closely involved and that there would be a chance that his FFL might be revoked.

Innocent

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:09 pm
by BlauBear
Innocent wrote:...there would be a chance that his FFL might be revoked.

Innocent
Uh huh, and there's a chance the sun will rise in the morning...

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:21 pm
by Innocent
Now now BB,
Maori legends have one of how Maui caught the sun, and made him slow down because he was going across the sky too fast. At least that is how my memory plays on some of those wonderful bedtime stories from, well lets put it this way many years ago. Any help from the land down under on these remarkable tales of geological significance at time when the true cause of the darkining skies was not well understood?

So you never know the sun may not rise again.

Innocent

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:29 pm
by Innocent
Kitty,
Many of the F troop were there in many different ways supporting the trip. Perhaps they were not fully aware of the situation but then more than one enlisted person has done what has been ordered without full knowledge as to why he was doing that task at the time.

The single most difficult thing was the getting there unannounced as I usually am in communication with Don at least twice to three times a day...the 3.5 hour layover in San Antonio due to weather slmost blew my excuses as to why I was out of phone contact. Bad cell phone batteries, man they are really bad....

Innocent

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:31 pm
by Innocent
Hey Shakes, just to stir the pot, remember I have a Honda not the other H bike. :D I'm Innocent and don't ever forget that.

M