scope for 1712

[BlauBear]

Yes and yes. The Leupold VXII 6-18x40 Target is an excellent scope for silhouette - or just about anything else. Not quite there for air rifle because it won't focus quite that close, but excellent for smallbore and my brother uses one for high power varmints.

[Innocent]

Yes to both as BB has stated. You will not be sorry with a Leupy.

Mary

[malinois]

Slick, I would say that the Higher power variables if you can spare the weight on the rifle are the way to go, you can dial down if needed and boost up as conditions and your skill improve...as for the cross fire thing dry fire when you can or just hold practice with carefull attention to foot placement will help you avoid that...try to find that natural hold area in your stance so you dont have to fight the gun. pleanty of good books out there.....I currently shoot the Leupold FX III..30X 1/2 dot scopes only because I my old Premiere variable would put me over weight.

[slickab]

Malinois,
Are you talking about 6-24, 6-20 or 6-18. As my silhouette shooting skills improve, will I be underpowered with the Leupold 6-18? Or maybe handicapped and at a disadvantage from the AAA and Master shooters? Is ........ Are .......... What would you put on a new 1712

[malinois]

I like any of the variables that have a top end grater than 20X...also try to stick with 1/4 moa click values since the 1/8/ones are very frustrating. I dont think you will be at any disadvantage at slightly lower power..depending on where you live the lower mag is a real advantage such as really hot humid days or windy conditions....

[Innocent]

Amen to malinios answer, I would add that lower power can be an advantage in low lighting situations also.
Innocent M

[slickab]

O'kay, Got a deal I could not refuse and pulled the trigger on a Leupold VX-II 6-18X40 target dot. The dot is very tiny. Does anyone have a clue what size dot this is? The box says years 1907 to 2007 on top of it. Model # 57100. Ab

[BlauBear]

It's a .25 MOA dot that Leupold will change to your choice of dots for $70. I've had two done and they came out great.

[Pete]

I have a Leoupold FX III, 30 Power with 1/2 min. dot for sale. $400 shipped.

Pete

[BlauBear]

That's a great price! I'm not in the market, but surely Santa needs it for someone!

[Jerry G]

I guess I am not sure what they call a target dot. the 1/8" dot is way too small. You should be looking at a 3/8" or 1/2" dot. Be sure the scope has target knobs on it.

As far as I know, they don't care who owns the scope. If it is broken, they will fix it. I just had a 3/8" dot put in my 6.5x20 and I got it back in about two weeks.

[BlauBear]

Leupold has repaired every scope I ever sent them, regardless of age, no questions asked.

Right or wrong, I refer to all of their reticles with tapered cross hairs as "Target Dot", no matter what size dot, and there are three dot sizes: 1/4, 3/8's and 1/2 MOA. In the past I ordered a couple of VXII 6-18x42 Target models with standard cross hairs because they were the least expensive, and immediately sent them back to Leupold for the 3/8's dots. Foolishly, I later sold them - these are fabulous scopes for the money and actually a better value than the VXIII 6.5-20x40. The VXIII's are better scopes of course, but the VXII's are better value for the $$$.

[Jerry G]

If the scope has target knobs on it The VX III is one of the best out there so I would assume that the VX II would be fine too. Make sure you have enough travel to go out beyond 100m. You may want to put some shim on the bottom of the back ring. Two thickness of a Bud Light can work great and gets mine SB out to 200m. and my HP out to 1,000m

[slickab]

Okay, what I would like to do now is center the adjustments on the VX-II 6-18X40 and find a way to have my zero at, or near, the 77 meter mark.
I would rather use rings with adjustable heights if anyone makes these for an 11mm rail. I cant use an angled baseplate as I am near going over on the hunter class weight limit. I dont want to use the aluminum can strips method because I dont want to take the chance of messing up my scope with it not being parallel to the rings. Is there a way to acheive this with rings or am I kicking a dead horse? Ab

[shakes]

slickab, there are rings that have 11moa built into them but your looking at spending at least $120 for the setup. If your down to spend that amount of $ they are they best rings you can get at there made by a gentleman who goes by the name of metalhead on this forum. you will be able to get them in any height you want(these are custom), they are aluminum and you can polish them to a mirror like finish. if not your best bet is a pair of bkl rings and a piece of buisness card on the rear ring. this will not hurt or damage you scope, i did this untill i laid the cash down for some quality rings. you may also not want to set your zero at 77 meters, this may get you into trouble. for example your at turkeys and your zeroed, fine, but then you move down to pigs and have to minus your setting to lets say 13 as marked on the elevation dial, you shoot your 10 animals and forget that your minused and keep continuing to minus thinking that you are going back to your zero, youve just screwed yourself. My suggestion is to set your zero a chickens 40meters and you will never be "unsure" where your at on your elevation. you dont have to take my advise, try things out but 90% of the shooters are going to advise you to set your zero at 40meters cause we've all had thoughts like yours and its gotten us into trouble. If your interested in what the rings look like cruise on over to the high power section and look at "shakes new rifle". those do not have a base but there is 11moa built in. for smallbore the rings are the same but metalhead has a one piece base that goes on first with the 11moa built into to that and then the rings slide on and get screwed down on the base. if your willing to spend the $ these are the last rings you will ever need to buy. hope this helps but usually the sickness just gets worse
also if you find that the dot is to small on the leupold send it back and ask for the leupold dot, this is different from the target dot and is slightly larger.