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Remington's new high-end rimfire?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:08 pm
by Jason
Just got the summer Remington Country email with the new rifles in it. Here's the link to the new rimfire.

http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... el_547.asp

[quote]Model 547

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:18 pm
by BlauBear
MSRP is around $1,200 and folks have been told $920 street - when they're available. This spring Remington said the Custom Shop expected the tooling in June and would begin taking orders.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:55 pm
by glocker17
Wonder if it will do 1/2 at 50 with Remington ammo?

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:41 pm
by Jason
I got some Remington-branded Eley EPS that it will probably do 1/2" with. Other than the little green Remington on it, it was just plain Eley EPS. I doubt there's a gun in the world that will do 1/2" at 50yds with 22lr ammo actually made in a Remington plant. :)

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:42 pm
by kevinpagano
hey remington I love the idea. Now how about putting a hunter silhouette stock on it like kimber??????

Please


kevin

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:37 pm
by BlauBear
I asked and they declined. A simple solution might be a 504-T stock...

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:59 am
by Bob259
BlauBear wrote:MSRP is around $1,200 and folks have been told $920 street - when they're available. This spring Remington said the Custom Shop expected the tooling in June and would begin taking orders.
For that price I'd wait and buy an Anschutz first.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:42 am
by BlauBear
For the last year I've begged Remington to build a competitive .22 and they just won't. If you like the 547, get one, but don't count on it for competition. Save your energy for a 1712.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:23 am
by jneihouse
Be not seduced by the pretty face........Do not go into the light.......Flee the devil and he will flee from you.........Tell them Blaubear, as you once were one of the unholy ones, buy have now found redemption......

Kitty

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:34 am
by Innocent
40X in .22, sweet rifle.

Innocent

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:04 pm
by BlauBear
Kitty, just for that I'm shooting the 504Mc on Saturday! I found the fix this afternoon and just need to sort out the best implementation.

I've been very stubborn about making 504's shoot and have learned a lot about Remington's mistakes in that rifle (their name is legion), and in doing so learned lots about accurate rifles in general. Look at the 1712 to see one with everything done right.

In particular, the receiver is slit to receive the barrel easily. It simplifies manufacturing but weakens an otherwise stout receiver, so the barrel needs extra support somewhere, maybe right away, maybe later, but it will need it. In my latest experience the rifle came back from Evelio shooting great, but then lost its' mind. If Remington also does this on the 547, forget it - they didn't learn enough from the 504.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:29 am
by stsbuyer
BlauBear wrote:Kitty, just for that I'm shooting the 504Mc on Saturday! I found the fix this afternoon and just need to sort out the best implementation.

I've been very stubborn about making 504's shoot and have learned a lot about Remington's mistakes in that rifle (their name is legion), and in doing so learned lots about accurate rifles in general. Look at the 1712 to see one with everything done right.

In particular, the receiver is slit to receive the barrel easily. It simplifies manufacturing but weakens an otherwise stout receiver, so the barrel needs extra support somewhere, maybe right away, maybe later, but it will need it. In my latest experience the rifle came back from Evelio shooting great, but then lost its' mind. If Remington also does this on the 547, forget it - they didn't learn enough from the 504.
What do you mean that it lost it's mind. I have a 504 that Evelio put a Anschutz 1710 barrel on and was thinking about putting it into a stock like you did. Did the barrel come loose or what happened?

Thanks, Paul

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:10 am
by BlauBear
Paul;

Groups went from one hole at 40 meters to 2", sometimes stringing and sometimes making two nice, tight groups. This is familiar 504 behavior, and frustrating because it hints that the rifle has real potential. Remington creates a pressure ridge in the forearm of their factory stock to provide support for the barrel, but this backfires if it creates too much pressure (and the difference too much and too little is measured in thousandths) and the barrel squirms against it, sticking and then popping loose with a creak. So people sand out the pressure pad and think the problem is cured. When accuracy problems return later they wonder what happened.

In my opinion, cradling the barrel is the real solution. Experiments yesterday confirmed that a traditional pressure pad helps very little while 1.5mm of cardboard lining the barrel channel right at the end of the forearm produced very good, repeatable results. A piece of 2mm dense foam should make a better temporary fix to confirm initial results.

Bedding the barrel right at the tip is a permanent fix that would allow everything to settle into a permanent, tension free relationship.

504

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:46 am
by stsbuyer
Bob,

There is a gunsmith by the name of Brian Volker that I believe welds the 504 action up and then threads the barrel to the action. Maybe this is the ultimate solotion to truely fix the 504. Not sure if I want to invest anymore money in mine. I have 2-Anschutz and Three Remington 40x's that I can shoot with out spending any more on the 504.

Good luck to you,

Paul

Re: 504

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:53 am
by genphideaux
stsbuyer wrote: I have 2-Anschutz and Three Remington 40x's that I can shoot with out spending any more on the 504.
But you will :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: