Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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I’ve competed nearly 20 years and my rear sight preference is a receiver peep sight and any type of front post. My eyesight is pretty good but I need a touch of positive diopter to sharpen the front sight. I’ve been shooting with Knobloch lense frames and while excellent for shooting glasses, they get dirty, require adjusting, and after awhile they’re uncomfortable to shoot.

Archery Specialists offers a most excellent alternative, the Iron-i rear peep system. The peep housing is just under 1/2” diameter and threads directly to my Williams FP. I ordered their weakest power vision correction lense and snapped it onto the screw-in peep. Most shooters will not experience conflict between the peep and hammer.

https://specialtyarch.com/product-categ ... verifiers/

WOW! Excellent clarity. My front sight is sharp. The target is well defined. Contrast is superb.

This is a “next-level” shooting experience for me. Good-bye inspector gadget. Hello to a glare free, high contrast sight picture.

Total cost per setup is just under $100 per unit. You need the peep housing, an optical “Verifyer” lense, and a peep sized to your preference.

Downside? I wish they marketed the Verifyer lense by diopter and not the goofy #4/silver item code. At least they share the range of weakest to highest correction. If folks share what #number/color code they settled upon and correlate to their current lense power we can get a feel for comparable diopters.

My shooting glasses are +0.75 diopter and #4/silver is a touch stronger however, I’m digging it. Must have been time for an upgrade.
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Re: Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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Thanks for the tip. I ordered the #4 also and it’s a tad strong. If I order another it will be a 3 or perhaps 2. We will see what happens but I called Specialty Archery and talked a good while with a fellow name Steve Green about providing a housing threaded 10-40 for sights such as MVA. He asked for information supporting my claim that a small but probable market exists. I provided a lot of information and as of today’s conversation he felt it was likely they will make at least one run to see how they sale. I’ll post again if I notice that has happened.
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Update

After emailing with MVA it sounds positive they are going to reach out to Specialty Archery to explore at least the lens portion of the system. With both parties showing interest, with luck, the outcome may be a MVA compatible lens system in the future.
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Re: Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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Unfortunately, #4/silver is the lowest diopter offered. As I mentioned above, I’ve been competing with +0.75 Knobloch and the silver is a bit more magnification, likely +1.0. I haven’t shot a match with it yet, but range sessions on paper sure indicate I needed the extra X.

Now I need to figure out how to keep the lense free of dust or water during match conditions.
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I gave bad information. I ordered a #6 first, then a #5. The five suits me better than the 6 and I SHOULD have ordered the 4.
I bonded the Iron eye aperture (lens holder) to a MVA aperture. I then attached a rubber eye cup to help keep some dust off.
I don’t understand exactly how lenses work. With the rear aperture lens in, presto, I see the front sight great but the target is unacceptably blurred. Then I put on my prescription glasses and presto again. I see the front sight clear and the target clearly. I know that’s not optical rocket science but it took me a few uses to realize I needed both the aperture lens and my prescription glasses. Thanks again Joe. Maybe your archery lens find will help a few other shooters see more clearly.
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Re: Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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This is great information.

I am someone who tends to tinker with sighting arrangements and hardware. Giving one of these "verifyer" arrangements sounds like a worthwhile subject to tinker with.

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Does this help prevent the rear peep looking like it has lint / blurry? I bought this thinking it would help with that for some reason and I went with #4 and it does nothing for me. I went with two different aperatures a 3/64 and a 3/32, the 3/64 I can easily see the front post and target I'm aiming at while the 3/32 with #4 acts like the default williams aperature.

It fits on my Marlin 39a and It's a close fit on my Marlin 1894, I had to remove my Uncle Mike's hammer extension.
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Re: Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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The verifier lense provides diopter adjustment (like using readering glasses or shooting glasses) so that you have a sharp focus on the front sight.
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Re: Finally, A Perfect Rear Peep

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For what it's worth (maybe nothing, now) I have several Sinclair/Brownells AOS 'Microsights'.
These are an amazing little device developed by an optical engineer who was also a seriously competitive rifle shooter (Palma Team).
I believe that Sinclair bought the patent (and subsequently, Brownells) only for the product to disappear.
If you can find one, swoop on it - you'll be amazed. It's not only the front sight that becomes clear - the target as well.

This text, below, was "stolen" from another forum, and best describes the device.
"The Sinclair/AOS MicroSight is a revolutionary solution to a problem that’s plagued riflemen since the beginning of rifle shooting itself: how to see both the target and the front sight clearly at the same time. A legitimate “game changer” doesn’t come along very often in the precision shooting world these days, so when we heard the MicroSight called one, we were, frankly, pretty skeptical. Then we tried it—and couldn’t believe the difference it made in sight picture and group size. The MicroSight uses “phased zone plate” technology in two tiny, internal lenses to produce two distinct focal points, so you see both the front sight AND the target perfectly clear, crisp, and in focus at the same time. You get a dramatically enhanced sight picture for more precise aiming and faster target acquisition that leads to superior accuracy and smaller groups. It gives iron sight target shooters, hunters, and military/law enforcement marksmen an amazing capability previously available only with a scope, red dot, or holographic sight.

Invented by David Crandall, an engineer at Idaho National Laboratory, a competitive shooter and U.S. Palma Team member, the MicroSight is actually a small add-on device that adds essentially no weight (OK, a few grams) or bulk to your rifle. It screws between the sight body and the rear aperture on adjustable rear sights from Centra, Gehmann, RPA, Warner, PNW, Anschutz, and similar models that have a 9.5mm x 1 thread pitch and require a rear-to-front radius of approximately 33" (84cm). For best results, use with 1.5mm or larger aperture setting
".

I couldn't be without mine now.
Start "hunting".
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