Bushnell 4200 6-24 elevation range

fwt1712 · Post by **fwt1712** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:46 pm

Can someone tell me how many moa adjustment are available per turn on the 4200 6-24. I would like to try one but don't want to go past 1 full turn adjustment from chooks to rams.

thanks,
Nigel

eeleater · Post by **eeleater** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:14 am

I was about to tell you how good the scopes were- despite having to go more than one revolution due to the 1/8 MOA clicks.

I then went to the Bushnell website and noted a 6x24 with a 50 MM objective- side parallax adjustment 25 yard to infinity... and 1/4 MOA clicks. Weight is 22 oz or 632g, which is 1.8 (51g) heavier than the older models.

I called Bushnell and asked if they install a dot on this model- and they do not. Give the lack of ability to install a dot and the weight it would not be my first choice.

I would suggest you consider the 6x24- even with the 1/8 MOA clicks. They are excellent scopes optically, are repeatable in the turret settings, and have the silhouette distances on the parallax adjustment bell for air-rifle and smallbore distances- and will focus to 10m for indoor dryfiring.

The 1/8 MOA clicks do require some care.

I would suggest making a guage from a small peice of plexiglass (Lucite) or other plastic and shaping it to just fit the gap between the turret base and the adjustment cylinder when set for chickens. If you are not sure where you are at - try and fit the guage in. If it fits snugly you are at chickens. If it is too loose, you are at a higher elevation. I suppose you could make it 2 sided and do ram height as well.

I took a much more complicated route and made my own turret "top". Not the route to go unless you enjoy metalworking and have access to the needed machinery.

ter · Post by **ter** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:01 pm

I have to go past one revolution with the 6x24 and 8x32. I think they are great scopes, but their service center is poor. I sent in a 8x32 for a 1/2 dot and they accidentally put in a 1 inch dot. I really like it. I tried doing another 1 inch dot, and they said they only do 1/2 dots and never put in a 1 inch dot.

eeleater · Post by **eeleater** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:57 pm

ter.

I have not had problems with Bushnell- but have with Leupold. I sent in a 6.5x20 EFR to have a 1/2 MOA dot put in indicating it was for silhouette shooting- and got back a scope with a 1/2 MOA dot at 6.5x. When I called them they initially seemed to think it was not a problem as it "was" a 1/2 MOA dot. I sent it back with a very clear note of what I needed.

I current y have a cope in to Bushnell for a 1/2 moa dot and was very clear in my letter to them. A lesson learned.

Do you normally shoot at 24X? I wonder if they installed a dot for an 8x32 scope in your 6x24. I belive that dot in your scope would be 3/4 MOA at 24x, and will be getting larger as the magnification decreases.

ter · Post by **ter** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:40 pm

I generally shoot at 24 or 28X. By some fluke it has 1 inch dot at 32X. Like you said it is even bigger at lower powers. I like the uber big dot. I tried getting another one done, but they did not pack it at all, and it was damaged. So, to make a long story longer, they wanted me to wait like 3 months to get a new 8x32.

And they offered me a 6500 4.5x30 for another 150, so I took that deal. By the way, I had to wait a month for the 6500 mildot.

eeleater · Post by **eeleater** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:55 pm

ter

What do you think of the 6500?

All variables have to trade off factors- and that 6.6 magnification range has to have an impact elsewhere.

When I was on the phone with Busnell today asking about the dot for the 50 mm 4200 6x24 he guy noted that "everyone wants something a little different". I am sure they hear it all.

Having the air-rifle and smallbore distances on the paralax adjustment indicates at some point they were listening to us...

nomad · Post by **nomad** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:42 pm

fwt1712

I don't think your original question got answered...

If you are using the 'standard' 4200 6-24 (I can't speak to the mil-dot, side-focus model as I've never used one) the scope has 26 moa of TOTAL adjustment in each axis and each revolution is 6 moa.

ter · Post by **ter** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:15 am

eeleater wrote:ter

What do you think of the 6500?

All variables have to trade off factors- and that 6.6 magnification range has to have an impact elsewhere.

When I was on the phone with Busnell today asking about the dot for the 50 mm 4200 6x24 he guy noted that "everyone wants something a little different". I am sure they hear it all.

Having the air-rifle and smallbore distances on the paralax adjustment indicates at some point they were listening to us...

I sold the 6500 because I wanted it for air rifle. It would focus to 33 feet on 4.5 power, and at 50 feet the max magnification was 10X. That was not enough magnification for my taste. I don't know about the amount of elevation on the 6500 turret, I never tried it. As far as I know they only offer the 6500 in duplex and mildot.

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:47 am

In a recent conversation with Leupold, I discovered the VXII-6-18x40 target could be modified to focus down to 20 yards, so it makes a good alternative for air guns. They only charge $15 for the change, too, so it isn't expensive.

GeoNLR · Post by **GeoNLR** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:17 am

BlauBear wrote:In a recent conversation with Leupold, I discovered the VXII-6-18x40 target could be modified to focus down to 20 yards, so it makes a good alternative for air guns. They only charge $15 for the change, too, so it isn't expensive.

BB, did they tell you how much 'off the top' that would take? I was recently told that a 6-18 I sent in for that adjustment would not focus much past 80 yards. I think it was a mark 2 for the record. But I do know that changing the bottom end drastically effects the top end, FWIW

Chicken

stsbuyer · Post by **stsbuyer** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:52 am

GeoNLR wrote:
BlauBear wrote:In a recent conversation with Leupold, I discovered the VXII-6-18x40 target could be modified to focus down to 20 yards, so it makes a good alternative for air guns. They only charge $15 for the change, too, so it isn't expensive.
BB, did they tell you how much 'off the top' that would take? I was recently told that a 6-18 I sent in for that adjustment would not focus much past 80 yards. I think it was a mark 2 for the record. But I do know that changing the bottom end drastically effects the top end, FWIW

Chicken

George,

I have a 6x18 x 40mm variX11 that Premier Reticule set the parallax so that I could use it for smallbore. I can focus from about 30yrds to about 150 yards. It will only work for smallbore, you cannot focus close enough for air rifle and not enough adjustment for the the longer distance to work for high power. I have had this scope for I think 8 years works great but only on a 22.
I have a 4.5 x 14 Leupold with the same mod and results.

My 2 cents, Paul

BlauBear · Post by **BlauBear** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:02 am

GeoNLR wrote:
BlauBear wrote:In a recent conversation with Leupold, I discovered the VXII-6-18x40 target could be modified to focus down to 20 yards, so it makes a good alternative for air guns. They only charge $15 for the change, too, so it isn't expensive.
BB, did they tell you how much 'off the top' that would take? I was recently told that a 6-18 I sent in for that adjustment would not focus much past 80 yards. I think it was a mark 2 for the record. But I do know that changing the bottom end drastically effects the top end, FWIW

Chicken

Like I said George, it's an alternative for airguns. An EFR is definitely the better choice, but then we had that discussion recently...