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chuck d
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100 yards
I have hit a plateau at 100 yards, nothing I try seems to help. Just too much wobble, can't break over 3/4 out of 10. Zero and ammo is good, no doubt its me and my hold. shorter yard lines are good, as in seeing progress.
Any help???
thanks
chuck
Any help???
thanks
chuck
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Re: 100 yards
What power you shooting at? While not changing your wobble, going down in power will help you see less of it and help you from tensing up to try and stop it and forcing the shot.chuck d wrote:I have hit a plateau at 100 yards, nothing I try seems to help. Just too much wobble, can't break over 3/4 out of 10. Zero and ammo is good, no doubt its me and my hold. shorter yard lines are good, as in seeing progress.
Any help???
thanks
chuck
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Re: 100 yards
Thanks Bob
I shoot everything at 24X
Not as much of a problem on shorter yards.
I shoot everything at 24X
Not as much of a problem on shorter yards.
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Re: 100 yards
I think I see your problem. It should be 100 M not 100 Y.
I am not convenced that dropping the power on your scope helps all shooters. Sometimes I find myself thinking when I shoot rams and that's not good. Sometimes I lie to myself and think 'them little buggers are a long way out there so maybe I should shoot a little high'. It never works. With a good piont of aim, rams should be just about as easy as pigs. if you force your aiming point, it induces a wobble into your hold. Natural point of aim is not just right and left but up and down also.
I am not convenced that dropping the power on your scope helps all shooters. Sometimes I find myself thinking when I shoot rams and that's not good. Sometimes I lie to myself and think 'them little buggers are a long way out there so maybe I should shoot a little high'. It never works. With a good piont of aim, rams should be just about as easy as pigs. if you force your aiming point, it induces a wobble into your hold. Natural point of aim is not just right and left but up and down also.
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Re: 100 yards
Oh the basics of NPA, let us not forget the balance point of the rifle. Many like barrel heavy balances, and if that works for you then great, but in attempting to attain NPA many people tend to spread their
rifle to body balance points and then things start getting sloppy. Trying to express this in writing is challenging, but if you think of where the lower part of the stock rests in most offhand shooting ( oh yeah, us women have another
advantage over you guys on this too) and how most shooters pull the entire rifle into the body, you are starting to build a platform for resting the rifle. If the rams (or any other animal) are higher, lower or even to either side
you will naturally try to hold the rifle where it seems to point based on where you are standing, which is often dictated by the shooting bench. This was evident in some of the scores at the HP at Ridgway, where many of the AA/AAA shooters were shooting 3 to 5 on the first bank and missing the entire second bank, despite the checking of NPA. THe second bank was to the right of where the shooter was standing, having taken the position for the first bank, and in doing so the rifle stock was held somewhat looser and away from the chest, thus opening up the wooble and causing the stomach muscles to tighten in order to try to "hold" the rifle.
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rifle to body balance points and then things start getting sloppy. Trying to express this in writing is challenging, but if you think of where the lower part of the stock rests in most offhand shooting ( oh yeah, us women have another
advantage over you guys on this too) and how most shooters pull the entire rifle into the body, you are starting to build a platform for resting the rifle. If the rams (or any other animal) are higher, lower or even to either side
you will naturally try to hold the rifle where it seems to point based on where you are standing, which is often dictated by the shooting bench. This was evident in some of the scores at the HP at Ridgway, where many of the AA/AAA shooters were shooting 3 to 5 on the first bank and missing the entire second bank, despite the checking of NPA. THe second bank was to the right of where the shooter was standing, having taken the position for the first bank, and in doing so the rifle stock was held somewhat looser and away from the chest, thus opening up the wooble and causing the stomach muscles to tighten in order to try to "hold" the rifle.
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Re: 100 yards
Thanks All,
NPA is so much easier with a Heavy, hardback jacket and a 13.5# short rifle! And it amy be offhand is easier with poor NPA with that equipment.
But went to the range and could only get chickens in, but went to work vs shoot. That mind set helped a lot!
Dicscovered a lot of muscle work happening, and draging wood on the trigger finger. Shooting an AR for much of the last 10 years has trained the trigger hand/finger to work differently than you need on a conventional stock.
Thanks and keep those ideas coming.
chuck
NPA is so much easier with a Heavy, hardback jacket and a 13.5# short rifle! And it amy be offhand is easier with poor NPA with that equipment.
But went to the range and could only get chickens in, but went to work vs shoot. That mind set helped a lot!
Dicscovered a lot of muscle work happening, and draging wood on the trigger finger. Shooting an AR for much of the last 10 years has trained the trigger hand/finger to work differently than you need on a conventional stock.
Thanks and keep those ideas coming.
chuck
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Re: 100 yards
One more thing-
How does HP effect your SB shooting?
How does HP effect your SB shooting?
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Re: 100 yards
HP vs SB...one thing comes to mind. Flinch.
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Re: 100 yards
When I train/practice I like to mix my HP and SB. Usually SB is easier all around because there is not as much noise or recoil as in SB on the other hand the HP bullets move a lot faster and the follow through is not as critical. Shoot 1 round of HP for 5/10 or more of SB so as to economize.chuck d wrote:One more thing-
How does HP effect your SB shooting?
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Re: 100 yards
Chuck:
One of the things that I have used is cut the cut the area in half that I will take a shot in. It's a lot like picking a spot but it's a spot that is quite a bit larger and easier to get the scope on to. I'll only shoot the back half or the front have of the Ram depending on the wind. I don't think that this will work for the higher scores but will help you get to the 7 or 8 range on the Rams.
Give me a call if you have any questions.
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One of the things that I have used is cut the cut the area in half that I will take a shot in. It's a lot like picking a spot but it's a spot that is quite a bit larger and easier to get the scope on to. I'll only shoot the back half or the front have of the Ram depending on the wind. I don't think that this will work for the higher scores but will help you get to the 7 or 8 range on the Rams.
Give me a call if you have any questions.
Byron
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Re: 100 yards
^ I tend do that on rams and turkeys! I'm usually shooting right above that front leg on the rams. Also, I seem to do better when I tend to aim at the back/tail region of the turkeys! Just personal preferences though. 
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