A bolt gun Revisited
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Re: A bolt gun Revisited
Evelio..A great back and forth...I am quite surprised, or perhaps not, that not one comment was made on the Anschutz trigger instalation.
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Marvin, I was impressed with this work back when you first posted it. I still am. Trouble is most of the folks here on good 'ol Steelchickens don't have a clue on what it takes to accomplish precision work like this. They don't have to know.This is why they come to people like you, Evelio , Mark and others to have their dream competition rifles made. They know only the best workmanship and materials will be used to produce it.
The pictures are worth a thousand words to those in the know. Your adaption of that trigger to fit a 700 is truly superb craftsmanship.
From one master metal worker to another, NICE WORK.
The pictures are worth a thousand words to those in the know. Your adaption of that trigger to fit a 700 is truly superb craftsmanship.
From one master metal worker to another, NICE WORK.
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Yes, it is nice work. I have been through two previous generations of fitting Anschutz triggers to Remington actions (and one to a Panda). Plainly, the best yet is Marv's machining the Remington action to directly take the trigger. That had been done before (in yet a different generation of efforts), but not with the ability to keep the magazine on a short action. I enjoyed looking at the pix of the work in progress, too.Bob Mc Alice wrote:Marvin, I was impressed with this work back when you first posted it. I still am. Trouble is most of the folks here on good 'ol Steelchickens don't have a clue on what it takes to accomplish precision work like this. They don't have to know.This is why they come to people like you, Evelio , Mark and others to have their dream competition rifles made. They know only the best workmanship and materials will be used to produce it.
The pictures are worth a thousand words to those in the know. Your adaption of that trigger to fit a 700 is truly superb craftsmanship.
From one master metal worker to another, NICE WORK.
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Bob & Rick....I wasn't out there looking for the kind comments, but thank you all the same. I saw that someone I respect as a pure shooter was looking to purchase a 5018 or a 5022 to install on his Rem. 700 and was hoping to draw him into this conversation. I could only assume that it was the one I made and donated as the Saturday night drawing prize for one of the Conard Cups.
I was just wondering what approach to mounting the Anschutz Trigger to his Rem. 700 was he contemplating. Nothing more, nothing less.
A few different ways to go about this. Briley carrier, or perhaps the way I prefer, Just bolt the darn thing right onto the receiver.
Cheers...Marv
I was just wondering what approach to mounting the Anschutz Trigger to his Rem. 700 was he contemplating. Nothing more, nothing less.
A few different ways to go about this. Briley carrier, or perhaps the way I prefer, Just bolt the darn thing right onto the receiver.
Cheers...Marv
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Re: A bolt gun Revisited
Marvin
I tried the Briley carriers, they don't last long, before the pin holes in the aluminum stars to wear out, and then they go to shit.
Did you received the reamer ???
Evelio.
I tried the Briley carriers, they don't last long, before the pin holes in the aluminum stars to wear out, and then they go to shit.
Did you received the reamer ???
Evelio.
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This coversation is getting my mind churning again. Oh damn you guys, but thanks for the good info, I shall us it wisely in the near future! 
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Evelio...Nope, No reamer yet....It usually takes a week or so to get stuff all the way up here into Injun Country. Something about the damn stage coaches being waylaid and all.....
The Briley carriers, I have done like 10 or 15 of them over the years. Some guys like them, some not so much. I honestly think if they had made the carrier itself out of some better material they would have been much better.
Yeah, made out of a good quality stainless steel, they would last a liftime. Unfortunately, the cost of that approach would put off most everyone in the Chicken House.
I'll let you know how the freebie .243 gun I got saddled with turns out. Damn, seems like all I do these days that is gun related is make free rifles for old friends. Oh well, it is what it is.
Cheers Pal..
Marv
The Briley carriers, I have done like 10 or 15 of them over the years. Some guys like them, some not so much. I honestly think if they had made the carrier itself out of some better material they would have been much better.
Yeah, made out of a good quality stainless steel, they would last a liftime. Unfortunately, the cost of that approach would put off most everyone in the Chicken House.
I'll let you know how the freebie .243 gun I got saddled with turns out. Damn, seems like all I do these days that is gun related is make free rifles for old friends. Oh well, it is what it is.
Cheers Pal..
Marv
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Re: A bolt gun Revisited
Yep, that's the action that I'm going to put a 5022 trigger on. I was talking to Dennis and Keith at the highpower state match and they got me all excited to try that hanger that Keith is building. I was going to build a different rifle and try to find an action that I can bolt the Anschutz trigger to without major modification, but that gun is so smooth and accurate that I just couldn't change. I've been through a Jewell trigger and am using a Jackson now. Next try is the Anschutz 5022. Hopefully, I'm going to love it so much that I have to build a new 54.18 frankenhunter for smallbore just to get that trigger, assuming I can find a stock to match the highpower rifle.metalhead wrote:Bob & Rick....I wasn't out there looking for the kind comments, but thank you all the same. I saw that someone I respect as a pure shooter was looking to purchase a 5018 or a 5022 to install on his Rem. 700 and was hoping to draw him into this conversation. I could only assume that it was the one I made and donated as the Saturday night drawing prize for one of the Conard Cups.
I was just wondering what approach to mounting the Anschutz Trigger to his Rem. 700 was he contemplating. Nothing more, nothing less.
A few different ways to go about this. Briley carrier, or perhaps the way I prefer, Just bolt the darn thing right onto the receiver.
Cheers...Marv
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Re: A bolt gun Revisited
Jason,
I have not seen Keith's adapter, but I am sure it is a well thought out one if he is making it. That said, it is difficult to imagine an adapter that would be sturdier than bolting the trigger directly to the action an having the catch link directly engage the striker.
There are several things one should consider. Obviously, once the action is machined to take the Anschutz trigger it is pretty much dedicated to the Anschutz trigger forever. The other is that the Anschutz catch link is quite hard and has been known, although rarely, to break on high power rifles. My understanding is that the majority of those occurrences have been experienced by the Palma/Long Range crowd who have used modified Pandas for quite a few years before it happened. This is supposedly due to the greater strength springs used in a high power rifle's striker assembly.
Once fitted by an experienced 'smith such as Marv and a few others in the Palma crowd you get the beauty of the Anschutz trigger you are used to using. If yo were traveling to a World Championship it might not be a bad idea to carry some spares, but that is true of most any essential equipment.
In short, enjoy it.
Rick
I have not seen Keith's adapter, but I am sure it is a well thought out one if he is making it. That said, it is difficult to imagine an adapter that would be sturdier than bolting the trigger directly to the action an having the catch link directly engage the striker.
There are several things one should consider. Obviously, once the action is machined to take the Anschutz trigger it is pretty much dedicated to the Anschutz trigger forever. The other is that the Anschutz catch link is quite hard and has been known, although rarely, to break on high power rifles. My understanding is that the majority of those occurrences have been experienced by the Palma/Long Range crowd who have used modified Pandas for quite a few years before it happened. This is supposedly due to the greater strength springs used in a high power rifle's striker assembly.
Once fitted by an experienced 'smith such as Marv and a few others in the Palma crowd you get the beauty of the Anschutz trigger you are used to using. If yo were traveling to a World Championship it might not be a bad idea to carry some spares, but that is true of most any essential equipment.
In short, enjoy it.
Rick
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Re: A bolt gun Revisited
Thanks, Rick. A back injury, my first and hopefully last, put this on the back burner for a few days but I'm hoping to make progress soon. For those looking for more pictures of a rifle with this work done by Marvin, there are several pictures in this old thread.
http://www.steelchickens.com/forums/vie ... f=3&t=5452
http://www.steelchickens.com/forums/vie ... f=3&t=5452
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Re: A bolt gun Revisited
Jason,
I hope you will recover quickly. A back injury makes everything tough.
The only piece of advice I will offer about a rifle build is to avoid being too close to the edge...meaning you won't notice the difference between a trigger that measures 2 pounds and one which 2 pounds, 2 or 4 ounces and you will breeze through tech. Not much can start a match out worse than having tech say your trigger won't pass or you are one ounce overweight or your cheek piece is 0.050" too high. A little bit of a cushion in these areas (including the 26" barrel length for a hunter...besides, I have come to think that a 24" barrel may actually be better in the conditions we encounter) just avoids a distraction you don't need. You can focus on the things that matter and get shooting.
Sometimes people just want to jerk your chain at tech. I once appeared at tech for a smallbore match and did not have my Anschutz magazine with me for some reason or other. I think it was in my vest which I wasn't wearing because the weather was hot. Rather than go to the car and get it I turned to the person behind me and asked to borrow their Anschutz magazine for a minute, but was told "Oh no, it has to be YOUR magazine." OK...I went to the car and got mine. It's just not worth getting aggravated when something like that pops up, but the more you can do in advance to avoid being hassled at tech the better.
Cheers,
Rick
I hope you will recover quickly. A back injury makes everything tough.
The only piece of advice I will offer about a rifle build is to avoid being too close to the edge...meaning you won't notice the difference between a trigger that measures 2 pounds and one which 2 pounds, 2 or 4 ounces and you will breeze through tech. Not much can start a match out worse than having tech say your trigger won't pass or you are one ounce overweight or your cheek piece is 0.050" too high. A little bit of a cushion in these areas (including the 26" barrel length for a hunter...besides, I have come to think that a 24" barrel may actually be better in the conditions we encounter) just avoids a distraction you don't need. You can focus on the things that matter and get shooting.
Sometimes people just want to jerk your chain at tech. I once appeared at tech for a smallbore match and did not have my Anschutz magazine with me for some reason or other. I think it was in my vest which I wasn't wearing because the weather was hot. Rather than go to the car and get it I turned to the person behind me and asked to borrow their Anschutz magazine for a minute, but was told "Oh no, it has to be YOUR magazine." OK...I went to the car and got mine. It's just not worth getting aggravated when something like that pops up, but the more you can do in advance to avoid being hassled at tech the better.
Cheers,
Rick