Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
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Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
We have kicked the idea around of having a little $ at matches to make things interesting. I was thinking about it again and came up with something that might get things interesting and some fun at the same time.
When I use to play darts a lot of the local weekly tournaments would have Ton Eighty (180), High Out and Mystery Out side pots. 180 means you threw the highest 3 dart score possible 3 x triple 20, high out was the highest score taken out to finish a 01 game where you have to double out to win and Mystery Out was where any out recorded was written down and then at the end a poker chip was drawn from all possible outs 2 to 170 and if it matched someones out for the night they won the pot. These pots were progressive except for high out and at times could get to be rather large especially Mystery out. Anyway enough dart info on to my idea.
Everybody that wants to participate puts up $1. Those in B-AA class would need to have 5 in a row as a requirement to qualify and AAA-M would need a 10 in a row to qualify. Here is where is gets interesting. By qualifying you get ONE SHOT at a GOLDEN painted Chicken at your choice of lines. The catch is you only get 10% of the pot for shooting it at the normal distance. If you choose the Pig line you can win 35% of the pot, Turkey line 75% and the Ram line takes the whole enchilada. Or some % roughly there about for each line. This way it entices you to try the harder shot and if you go easy you don't win much unless the pot is pretty big. I bet this could build a big pot quick! You only get one shot per match not per 5 or 10 in a row you shoot that day.
What makes it a little more complicated is that you could of course have several potential shooters trying to win the cash so how to handle those instances is what I am thinking through. Here is what I came up with.
We split it up when you have the chance that more than one person could win it. We could pay out 10 Chicken hits but only 1 Ram hit. OR we could just do a Mystery drawing for the line that everyone will have to try and make the shot from and the pot gets split equal based on the number of shooters, for each miss it regresses back to whatever the % would have been for only one shooter. IE If 4 people qualify and the chip drawn is a Chicken they can only win the 10% as normal each. If the chip is a pig then the 4 would shoot and for each hit they would get 25% and each miss leaves 25% in the pot. Simple % based on the number of shooters that you can win while not giving the whole pot away unless everyone manages to hit.
Would you play such a game a for a buck? I think it would be fun and add some excitement to the end of a match.
Dee
When I use to play darts a lot of the local weekly tournaments would have Ton Eighty (180), High Out and Mystery Out side pots. 180 means you threw the highest 3 dart score possible 3 x triple 20, high out was the highest score taken out to finish a 01 game where you have to double out to win and Mystery Out was where any out recorded was written down and then at the end a poker chip was drawn from all possible outs 2 to 170 and if it matched someones out for the night they won the pot. These pots were progressive except for high out and at times could get to be rather large especially Mystery out. Anyway enough dart info on to my idea.
Everybody that wants to participate puts up $1. Those in B-AA class would need to have 5 in a row as a requirement to qualify and AAA-M would need a 10 in a row to qualify. Here is where is gets interesting. By qualifying you get ONE SHOT at a GOLDEN painted Chicken at your choice of lines. The catch is you only get 10% of the pot for shooting it at the normal distance. If you choose the Pig line you can win 35% of the pot, Turkey line 75% and the Ram line takes the whole enchilada. Or some % roughly there about for each line. This way it entices you to try the harder shot and if you go easy you don't win much unless the pot is pretty big. I bet this could build a big pot quick! You only get one shot per match not per 5 or 10 in a row you shoot that day.
What makes it a little more complicated is that you could of course have several potential shooters trying to win the cash so how to handle those instances is what I am thinking through. Here is what I came up with.
We split it up when you have the chance that more than one person could win it. We could pay out 10 Chicken hits but only 1 Ram hit. OR we could just do a Mystery drawing for the line that everyone will have to try and make the shot from and the pot gets split equal based on the number of shooters, for each miss it regresses back to whatever the % would have been for only one shooter. IE If 4 people qualify and the chip drawn is a Chicken they can only win the 10% as normal each. If the chip is a pig then the 4 would shoot and for each hit they would get 25% and each miss leaves 25% in the pot. Simple % based on the number of shooters that you can win while not giving the whole pot away unless everyone manages to hit.
Would you play such a game a for a buck? I think it would be fun and add some excitement to the end of a match.
Dee
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
There are some clubs that give you a choice of trophy or cash if you win. Most take the money.
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
I'll have to run this by my personal assistant because I can't understand a word of it, plus he say's he's really smart.
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
Well at our matches all you get for winning is a few words of congratulations.
We are still kicking the idea around and coming up with some changes to what I listed above to determine what will work best when you have several shooters that qualify to take the money shot.
The hardest part of trying to incorporate something like this into a small local match is the shooters are all over the place with regard to classification. So how to make it fun and challenging for everyone while at the same time not making it so only the better shooters always win. You can't simply say winner of the match takes the pot otherwise 3/4 of the shooters wouldn't bother to even enter.
Dee
We are still kicking the idea around and coming up with some changes to what I listed above to determine what will work best when you have several shooters that qualify to take the money shot.
The hardest part of trying to incorporate something like this into a small local match is the shooters are all over the place with regard to classification. So how to make it fun and challenging for everyone while at the same time not making it so only the better shooters always win. You can't simply say winner of the match takes the pot otherwise 3/4 of the shooters wouldn't bother to even enter.
Dee
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
Hmm, wanna try speaking a little American Dee? Too many situations to sort it out KISS buddy, and people will play, but once the sorting out of what % goes where then they start to think Vegas style gambling and it becomes a no go.
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
In Colorado we did "Bandito" matches all the time for money. Everyone kicks in a dollar and then we do teams rather than individuals. Then you can make teams based on class and end up pretty even by mixing the teams with equal masters and whatnot. We always had fun.
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
It will be simple when all is thought through completely I assure you. No pencil will be needed to make payouts. I'll be sure to pass the final wording on to Greg Conners for approval, NOT!
The Bandito Matches might be a good idea to then everyone can shoot a little something extra no matter what. I am just looking for a good way to have a little more fun on the 3 match days I have a month. Progressive pots make things interesting when they sit for awhile
Dee
The Bandito Matches might be a good idea to then everyone can shoot a little something extra no matter what. I am just looking for a good way to have a little more fun on the 3 match days I have a month. Progressive pots make things interesting when they sit for awhile
Dee
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
Is this for next year's Southern Nationals or whatever the name gets changed to?
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
DavidABQ wrote:Is this for next year's Southern Nationals or whatever the name gets changed to?
No, this is for our local club monthly matches. Getting the finalized rules of how it will work written right now. I think we have come up with a novel way of doing it to make it challenging on several levels beyond just taking the challenge shot itself. Only time will tell how it unfolds if we start doing it.
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Re: Side Pots for $$ at matches. This could be fun.
Most non-international or non-traditional shooting disciplines have side events for the competitors. Speed, accuracy, team, individual, unknown distances, etc… many of these events could be easily and safely run on a silhouette range. We do not have to reinvent a new wheel, look at the Cowboy Action, Sportsman’s Team Challenge, Shotgun games, for possible variation on those events. This would give folks another reason to play with the autoloaders (even the dreaded “Black Rifles”), along with the traditional bolt guns.
Falling Plates, Rifle or Pistol Pigs, Wolf Chase, Tres Banditos….. Tell folks there will be a side event, but nothing else.
New challenges will invigorate the competitors instead of our doing the same thing over and over.
Falling Plates, Rifle or Pistol Pigs, Wolf Chase, Tres Banditos….. Tell folks there will be a side event, but nothing else.
New challenges will invigorate the competitors instead of our doing the same thing over and over.