Volquartsen stock

[m10103]

Hello I'm interested in getting into silhouette, but I've also been wanting to get a .22 volquartsen for some time. I was wondering if their laminated "thumbhole" stock would be acceptable for shooting silhouette, I read that the stock "must be traditionally styled and may not be bent and/or twisted so as to deviate from conventional configurations". So would this be match legal? Also is the forward blow compensator on the end of most of their barrels is removable.


They also have a sporter stock that I assume would be legal?

I guess, lastly, aside from legality, is this a good small bore silhouette rifle or would I be far better off going with something different (and probably cheaper---like just a CZ 455)?

[AddictedToSB]

The thumbhole stock would probably be ok for Standard class, but would not be allowed in Hunter class. I think the sporter would work for both classes if the other dimensions are within limits.

As to the rifle itself, I have no idea. I've heard good things about the brand, but don't know anyone who shoots them in silhouette. Maybe someone else will know more.

Edit - You might want to read the following thread: http://www.steelchickens.com/forums/vie ... sen#p55819

[cedestech]

Honestly most clubs are "run what you brung" especially if you are starting out. Gun tech usually only gets serious once you start shooting master scores and or at state/national matches.

Buy what makes you happy. If you "really" like the sport you'll buy a more silhoueete dedicated rifle later.

;)

[boats]

My match would let one shoot Silhouette rifle class other Hunter. Have not turned a rifle away in years, but would not let a comp gun shoot. It disturbs the other shooters.

Either one not the ideal rifle. I can't say why just never saw a well shot Ruger 10/22. Always recomend CZ to new shooters

Boats

[ShootingStar]

m10103,
Here's another opinion from another Match Director:
I'll let a new shooter bring "any" gun and shoot in both classes (even though in this case the thumbhole puts the top stock into Silhouette Rifle class only). In the first match I might even award the new "Unclassified" shooter to win both Uncliassified class awards (if there were no other Unclassified shooters) and win Silhouette only if there were other Hunter rifle Unclassified shooters. I try my best to encourage new shooters, with winning and praise, etc. I have let new shooters shoot their one gun (Silhouette) in both matches, but tell them that to win awards they must have a rules-compliant rifle. We had one person who kept shooting the Silhouette rifle several more matches - doing well in scores and receiving recognition, but not awards. I did not/do not enter Hunter Rifle scores in the Official Scorebook when Silhouette Rifles are used - I will enter the Silhouette score. So, they shoot 2 matches, get scores and awards for 1 match (but pay for 2).

For new shooters I stress that the BEST rifle you can start with is the one you already have - whatever that is! If they don't have a rifle already, then I suggest they just come and "borrow" a loaner rifle - some of the shooters bring extra "loaner" rifles or we shoot 2 relays and the new shooter uses a rifle of someone who is shooting in the First Relay. That allows the new shooter to try out several different rifle/scope combinations, talk to the rifle owner about modifications and costs, etc. Then the new shooter accomplishes at least 2 things: 1 - they find out if they reall want to stick with our great little sport and 2 - they have handled and used "several" guns/scopes used in the sport and can make an informed decision about what they might buy for themselves.

I too, recommend the CZ brand to beginners.

I own a 10/22, but have not used it for Silhouettes. I have not talked to folks who have used one in the sport either. Therefore my knowledge is from this site and others that have said the main reasons for not using a 10/22 in this are: in their stock form the trigger is not condusive to our type of shooting. The semi-auto action is more "tuned" to high velocity (read that higher energy) rounds and our slower/lower energy ammo can cause feeding problems (something else to have to worry about and clear up during a timed match). The "wax" lube used on match grade ammo builds up "quickly" in the action causing problems too. In order to make the trigger, barrel and stock "right" for Silhouettes, you "have to" spend as much as getting one of the top bolt action rifles and it does not keep its value like the top bolt action rifles do.

Back to CZ - they are very accurate, hold their value and only "need" slight modifications to be at or near the top of the bolt action rifles. As such, it is known within the sport and therefore hold their value. It can last you your entire Silhouette career - until "gun envy" sets in!

Good luck, hold steady and squeeze the trigger (in whatever rifle it's connected to). Hope to see you at a competition some time.

ShootingStar - Match Director Asheville Rifle & Pistol Club
Asheville, NC

[cedestech]

. It can last you your entire Silhouette career - until "gun envy" sets in!

That never happens....

[m10103]

Thanks to everyone for their helpful responses. I really appreciate all the feedback. Think you guys have thoroughly convinced me that I should get a CZ to start out with (and the $1000 I'll be saving isn't a bad motivator either). I'll be going to spectate a match this weekend at my local club, hopefully I'll also get a better idea of what things are like and what kind of guns other people are shooting around here, instead of just being in awe of the competition. Again, thanks for the advice and saving me a bunch of money!

[ShootingStar]

m10103,
Please do attend a local match that's an excellent way to get intoduced to the sport.

One more suggestions though: Bring some money with you and be ready to shoot! If those folks are like any of the others I've been around, they'll try and get you to give their rifle a try!!! They will probably find a way to get you to go ahead and compete!!! That's te BEST way to experience the sport.

Watching if fun, but doing is soooooo much better. We are still talking about shooting, right?!?

[DavidABQ]

m10103,

Watching if fun, but doing is soooooo much better. We are still talking about shooting, right?!?

I don't know but I can think of a couple of activities that are more fun to do than to watch.