Anshutz vs CZ Need your input

[kevinbear]

Thank you all for your help/advice. It looks like CZ might be the way to go for hunter class. I'll probably keep my annie for standard rifle (and maybe sentimental reasons) but have some fun with a new CZ 455 for hunter. You've all been very helpful. Thanks again.

Good idea, all the top shooters use CZ's nowadays, Anschutz's are a waste of money.

[DavidABQ]

LOL!

[Brd_Hntr]

You could always look at the equipment survey from the national match result bulletin. I found it helpful to see what experienced shooters were using.

http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/co ... lletin.pdf

[BCloninger]

You could always look at the equipment survey from the national match result bulletin. I found it helpful to see what experienced shooters were using.

http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/co ... lletin.pdf

That does tell a story. Anschutz 1712 with 25x40 Leupold scope?

[Brd_Hntr]

That does tell a story. Anschutz 1712 with 25x40 Leupold scope?

That was my conclusion.

[Jim T.]

I took my "3 best" Anschutz silhouette rifles and a new CZ 455 with a Lilja barrel and aftermarket sear. For an extended range test. The CZ tied the best Anschutz with a selection of high end ammo. The CZ is single stage, but is much better than a single stage 1710 trigger. All had the same model 6x20 scope. Bonus was the CZ actually ejected rounds consistently, the anschutz not so much.

I have never heard that the single stage 1710 trigger was worse than a CZ trigger. From the list at the link below could you please point out the Anschutz trigger model you are referring to?

http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.ph ... &sprache=1

[ColdChevy]

Ok, need some more help. Apparently there are about 12 or 13 sub models to the CZ 455. There are trainers, Varmints, and several others. Can anyone tell me which models are not only legal for hunter class but also recommended for silhouette competition? Thanks again.

[out of $]

Hello,
Owned one of these many years ago. I do not know how adjustable the trigger is. I have bought a few guns here, online and in person. They have been very good people to do business with.
Search. Jaqua's Fine Guns. They are in Finley Ohio
Anschutz 141 with Balfor 4x scope. $595.00
Just checked before I posted, it is still listed.
Tom

[ter]

I took my "3 best" Anschutz silhouette rifles and a new CZ 455 with a Lilja barrel and aftermarket sear. For an extended range test. The CZ tied the best Anschutz with a selection of high end ammo. The CZ is single stage, but is much better than a single stage 1710 trigger. All had the same model 6x20 scope. Bonus was the CZ actually ejected rounds consistently, the anschutz not so much.

I have never heard that the single stage 1710 trigger was worse than a CZ trigger. From the list at the link below could you please point out the Anschutz trigger model you are referring to?

http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.ph ... &sprache=1

I know I have owned a dozen Anschutz sporters and both the two stage and single stage triggers have some mush. Sporter triggers are not match triggers. They do not break clean like a jewell trigger. The aftermarket trigger I have on my CZ is just like a jewell. I am not saying the stock CZ trigger is better than a Anschutz, but the aftermarket replacement trigger is crisper. Sorry I did not make that clear.
Same said for the barrels. A lilja with a match chamber will most likely out shoot a standard sporter barrel 99/100.
I don't think this is a radical view because there are plenty of hunter rifles built with the 54 MSR action with an aftermarket barrel. If the sporter triggers and barrels were top notch, no one would be investing in MSR conversions. I have the full blown Evelio MSR, a couple Pharr 1712's, 4 factory MSRs, and 4 1710/1712s at the moment, and I think a custom CZ is overkill for offhand, and so are the other rifles mentioned.

[Jim T.]

I took my "3 best" Anschutz silhouette rifles and a new CZ 455 with a Lilja barrel and aftermarket sear. For an extended range test. The CZ tied the best Anschutz with a selection of high end ammo. The CZ is single stage, but is much better than a single stage 1710 trigger. All had the same model 6x20 scope. Bonus was the CZ actually ejected rounds consistently, the anschutz not so much.

I have never heard that the single stage 1710 trigger was worse than a CZ trigger. From the list at the link below could you please point out the Anschutz trigger model you are referring to?

http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.ph ... &sprache=1

I know I have owned a dozen Anschutz sporters and both the two stage and single stage triggers have some mush. Sporter triggers are not match triggers. They do not break clean like a jewell trigger. The aftermarket trigger I have on my CZ is just like a jewell. I am not saying the stock CZ trigger is better than a Anschutz, but the aftermarket replacement trigger is crisper. Sorry I did not make that clear.
Same said for the barrels. A lilja with a match chamber will most likely out shoot a standard sporter barrel 99/100.
I don't think this is a radical view because there are plenty of hunter rifles built with the 54 MSR action with an aftermarket barrel. If the sporter triggers and barrels were top notch, no one would be investing in MSR conversions. I have the full blown Evelio MSR, a couple Pharr 1712's, 4 factory MSRs, and 4 1710/1712s at the moment, and I think a custom CZ is overkill for offhand, and so are the other rifles mentioned.

Could you please just answer my original and only question??

[kevinbear]

It was this one Jim, one of the few triggers Anschutz made not up to par with a CZ.
If you read the description it says it "funtions", did older computers not have spellcheck?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =501348353

[DavidABQ]

Ok, need some more help. Apparently there are about 12 or 13 sub models to the CZ 455. There are trainers, Varmints, and several others. Can anyone tell me which models are not only legal for hunter class but also recommended for silhouette competition? Thanks again.

I used to use a CZ455 American with a trigger job and some weight added to the forearm.

If you can find a CZ 452 Silhouette or Style mode on the secondary marker I would certainly buy that instead of the 455 American. The stock on the Silhouette and Style is damn near a copy of the Anschutz 1712 stock.

[scotty250]

I shoot a Cz 452 silhouette in hunter & a anshutz 64msr in std. I shoot AA & AAA scores. I score better with the 64 usually. I cleaned up my Cz trigger & action & it shoots nice. But the stock & trigger on the 64 are far better. They both shoot well at 100m with the 64 shooting maybe 1/4 - 1/8" smaller 5 shot groups. But I can't hold near that. The Cz was $400 and it's a great hunting gun. The Cz also has a 16x scope & the 64 has a 24x. So it's hard to be fair. Love the Cz for the $$$. I just got a 455 varmint in 17hmr for light varmint hunting. Should be fun.