Anshutz vs CZ Need your input

[ColdChevy]

I started shooting smallbore silhouette about 12 years ago with a "youth model" anshutz because it fits me well. I am pretty short with short arms. The youth model was I think called "the woodchuck" or "the beaver" or some crap like that. The model is 1451. It has served me pretty well over the years but I have had trigger problems with it a few times over the years. The trigger has failed me again and I am tired of fixing it. My shooting abilities have improved, I have moved up a few classes and I feel it's time for a more accurate rifle to replace it with. I looked at an Anshutz model 1416D HB. I don't know enough about them to commit to it. I've also heard CZ is making some very accurate rifles that cost a lot less. People I need input!!! I wanna hear the good, the bad and the ugly on both please. Thank you for your help

[Brd_Hntr]

The 1416 D HB and the CZ455 both have a single stage trigger. The trigger quality is much better in the Anshutz. Accuracy may be slightly better in the Anshutz. My CZ and Anchutz are very close depending on ammo brand. You can get an adjustable sear for the CZ. It will improve the trigger, but it will not be as clean as the Anshutz trigger. You might be better off looking at the Anshutz with the two stage trigger, the 1416 HB - Classic stock, 5098 two-stage trigger. These are nice rifles. The two stage trigger is sweet!

[DavidABQ]

I have seen teenage girls shoot Anschutz 1712 with great results. It is more expensive than either a CZ or a Anschutz 1416 but it is a great rifle.

[ppkny]

For the money the CZ with a Timney trigger is hard to beat if you're just starting out. Unless you're shooting in the high 30's the expense of a $1200 gun to get into this sport seems excessive.
ppkny

[OldRanger]

AND if you buy the CZ now you always have an excuse down the road to buy a new gun.

[DavidABQ]

AND if you buy the CZ now you always have an excuse down the road to buy a new gun.

The old guy is right. Who doesn't want an excuse to buy another firearm?

[bjkramer]

I don't have a CZ but I do have a Kimber HS and an older model Anschutz 1710 with the wing safety, both bought new. I prefer the Kimber. It fits me better for offhand shooting, as coming from the factory has a better trigger for hunter class and the safety works. Used Kimber HS's show up occasionally and sell for around $1000.

[DavidABQ]

I suppose it is safe for me to admit this but I shot 2 NRA Nationals at Raton plus the Intervening time with a CZ 455 American with, for me, good results. A good scope, good ammo and a trigger job will allow you to be competetive.

[BCloninger]

Either way you get great rifle! Maybe the big difference is you can buy an Anschutz, shoot it several years, and - if you took care of it - get your money back (assuming you want to sell). A CZ 455 will come close if you discount the upgrades you made, and then you can buy your 1712.

[snaketail2]

My CZ 452 Varminter has a DIP sear and the trigger is set to break at exactly 1 pound.
I've never owned an Annie, or shot one. But the CZ shoots better then I can - If that changes I may (but probably won't) look into the Anschutz line.

Michael

[TDB]

I'll start by saying that I've never shot an Anshutz. When I started shooting about a year ago, there was no way I was going to spend that kind of money right away. My first rifle was (and still is) a CZ 455 American. Given the price of the CZ (around $330 from Bud's) and many many recommendations from fellow-shooters, it seemed like the logical starter. Since I've gotten better, I've slowly been modifying it. For example, I've put it in a custom stock, a Yo Dave shim to remove all of the creep, and recently a Lilja barrel. In all honestly, with Wolf Match Target, it shoots in the .5 to .75 inch group range off the bench at Rams. It will stack em at chickens. Shoots way better than I likely ever will. I like the fact that now I know for sure that a miss was me and not my rifle.

Guess it boils down to your budget and preference, but I you really can't go wrong either way.

[frankmako]

i got a anshutz 64 ms that i got in 1981. i put a el paso weaver t-16 scope on it. stopped shooting sb in 86. started back in the game this summer. but the anshutz 64 ms will not work for the hunter rifle class. pickup a cz 455 and put on a el paso weaver t-16 from my big bore backup rifle. did the ace hardware 144 spring job on the trigger. i kept the nut and washer on the shaft. the trigger pull is just a little over 2.5 pounds. my cz had no creep in it. the factory trigger was at 3.75 pounds. after several matches i stopped shooting the 64 ms and use the cz for both matches. one gun is easy over two different guns,, i.e. 64 ms two stage trigger. my cz shoots just as good as the 64 ms at all targets except the rams. at the rams the group opens up a little more than the 64 ms. but it stays on target. i am using 1986 rws rifle target ammo. when i run out i am going with cci standard. when i miss a target i know it is me not the rifle/scope/ammo. so i would go with the cz 455 and look for a el paso weaver t scope. try several different type/brands of ammo to see which ones the cz likes.

[ter]

I took my "3 best" Anschutz silhouette rifles and a new CZ 455 with a Lilja barrel and aftermarket sear. For an extended range test. The CZ tied the best Anschutz with a selection of high end ammo. The CZ is single stage, but is much better than a single stage 1710 trigger. All had the same model 6x20 scope. Bonus was the CZ actually ejected rounds consistently, the anschutz not so much.

[xpilot]

""The CZ is single stage, but is much better than a single stage 1710 trigger. All had the same model 6x20 scope. Bonus was the CZ actually ejected rounds consistently, the anschutz not so much.""

AMEN

[ColdChevy]

Thank you all for your help/advice. It looks like CZ might be the way to go for hunter class. I'll probably keep my annie for standard rifle (and maybe sentimental reasons) but have some fun with a new CZ 455 for hunter. You've all been very helpful. Thanks again.